The Disappointed Departed

[silverfaun]

We are witness to  excoriating disappointment every day from the left. The ABC just cannot run a positive slant on the Government no matter how many successes they have.

They are the government who have to clean up the disastrous mess Labor left behind, they are the government that has to do this every time Labor leave power, no wonder they are not the preferred party of Australians.

The Greens are now moving towards having a larger mandate than Labor, that is their plan and Labor are looking like the fringe dwellers the Greens once were.

After the catastrophe of the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd disaster and the mountain of debt, the entrenched regulation and the legislated entities that are sucking the life  out of the economy we are now seeing the crocodile tears for the Illegal immigrants.

That's the thing, they are illegal immigrants and illegal immigrants we don't want here at any cost. They targeted Australia knowing that it is a 1st world country and they can live like they never imagined anywhere else.

After 5 years 85% of the illegal immigrants still do not work, they are not productive, never will be,  and Labor let them in. Labor are not even talking about the illegal immigrants now they are hiving that out to their mates and 3rd parties  to do the dirty work for them.

The lies we were told by Labor when they lost control was mind numbing and offensive, this is all the left on here have to hang onto, they bleat every day "Oh the poor refugees" well guess what?? they are not refugees they are illegal immigrants in cahoots with criminals to exploit Australia.

We can't afford this mind set that we are witness to on here every day, the disappointed and  sore losers, the poor benighted  that just cannot come to grips with loss.

Move on left, Australia is under new management, and like it or not, and no matter how many scrollers posted to assuage  disappointment,  try to be a productive members of society.

The doom and gloom hunted out and posted on here is ludicrous and twisted logic that makes no sense and is propaganda designed to spread an agenda that has no support from the broader Australia, in fact they are delighted with the government.

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[boris1gary]

silverfaun wrote - After 5 years 85% of the illegal immigrants still do not work, they are not productive, never will be,

Where is your proof of this please, or is this just an unfounded "opinion".

[freakiness]

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@boris1gary wrote:

silverfaun wrote - After 5 years 85% of the illegal immigrants still do not work, they are not productive, never will be,

Where is your proof of this please, or is this just an unfounded "opinion".

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they're not allowed to work while being illegal.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@boris1gary wrote:

silverfaun wrote - After 5 years 85% of the illegal immigrants still do not work, they are not productive, never will be,

Where is your proof of this please, or is this just an unfounded "opinion".

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He gets that from oft-quoted newsc corp articles. Although the figure quoted is usually 60% rather than 85%. *5% is a complete figment of silverfauns imagination.

And as the 60% figure, that comes from a Federal Government report whose statitsics News Corp have conveniently manipulated for the benefit of those readers with only half a brain. It is one of The Daily Telegraphs favourite stories.  But surprsingly there is never a link to the actual report....

Because if readers like silverfaun read the actual report they would see that of the 60% currently without a job, the majority were engaged in activities such as child raising, studying, unpaid volunteer work or were in the process of business start-ups.

Altho interestingly, I can no longer find the report on line now that the government has changed hands.

[2106greencat]

After 5 years 85% of the illegal immigrants still do not work, they are not productive, never will be

And if they were working ??

What's the bet the outcry would be that they are taking job's Australians could have.

So many political threads - when no-one will ever change the mind of another, it will simply go around and around in circles until such time as an actual 'discussion' can be attained.

Said 'discussion' will never happen as arguing with different opinions is 'negating' the meaning of the word discussion.

How about an honestly titled thread -- using the word DEBATE - then the mod's won't have anything to cull due to off topic either.

[silverfaun]

Whenever any debate is  on here the usuals flock on, snipe and insult, hi 5 each others post, mob and bombard with C & P and if anyone replies to any of this behaviour you find yourself sanctioned as per their actions.

The thread posted is  ideologically cherry picked to suit, they never address the whole picture, they pick out ONE piece they can build on thus taking it in a different direction (derailing) this is done all the time on here.

Then when they have done all that they:

*shakes head and sighs* pathetic really,  that an adult would participate in this type of kindergarten behaviour.

[just_me_karen]

LMAO

The irony.

[silverfaun]

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@just_me_karen wrote:
LMAO

The irony.

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See what I mean.

[azureline**]

It's time to put that to rest.

I can't hrelp but wonder why all this deflection from what is actually happening now.................

[freakiness]

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@silverfaun wrote:

Whenever any debate is  on here the usuals flock on, snipe and insult, hi 5 each others post, mob and bombard with C & P and if anyone replies to any of this behaviour you find yourself sanctioned as per their actions.

The thread posted is  ideologically cherry picked to suit, they never address the whole picture, they pick out ONE piece they can build on thus taking it in a different direction (derailing) this is done all the time on here.

Then when they have done all that they:

*shakes head and sighs* pathetic really,  that an adult would participate in this type of kindergarten behaviour.

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Who are the usuals?

How do they flock on?

Who are "they"?

[boris1gary]

http://theaimn.com/2014/04/12/in-the-clash-of-ideologies-language-wins-the-war/

Dismissive rhetoric about “the left” ignores the fact that leftist political values are based upon social justice, inclusion and concepts of decency and fairness. The ongoing message is that an empathetic worldview is “loony” and that to embrace a cynical philosophy of “winners and losers” is to dwell in the “real world”.

In this way a political message has been delivered into the public sub-consciousness: that leftist views are “crazy” and “loony” in their consideration of the public good, and that right-wing extremist views which can only benefit a minority elite are “sensible”, “rational” and “economically sound”.

Somewhere, somehow, logic and reason lie bleeding and forgotten by the masses, while weasel words and tabloid headlines are regurgitated as valid arguments in the arena of public discussion.

how apt.