on 11-04-2014 08:31 AM
We are witness to excoriating disappointment every day from the left. The ABC just cannot run a positive slant on the Government no matter how many successes they have.
They are the government who have to clean up the disastrous mess Labor left behind, they are the government that has to do this every time Labor leave power, no wonder they are not the preferred party of Australians.
The Greens are now moving towards having a larger mandate than Labor, that is their plan and Labor are looking like the fringe dwellers the Greens once were.
After the catastrophe of the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd disaster and the mountain of debt, the entrenched regulation and the legislated entities that are sucking the life out of the economy we are now seeing the crocodile tears for the Illegal immigrants.
That's the thing, they are illegal immigrants and illegal immigrants we don't want here at any cost. They targeted Australia knowing that it is a 1st world country and they can live like they never imagined anywhere else.
After 5 years 85% of the illegal immigrants still do not work, they are not productive, never will be, and Labor let them in. Labor are not even talking about the illegal immigrants now they are hiving that out to their mates and 3rd parties to do the dirty work for them.
The lies we were told by Labor when they lost control was mind numbing and offensive, this is all the left on here have to hang onto, they bleat every day "Oh the poor refugees" well guess what?? they are not refugees they are illegal immigrants in cahoots with criminals to exploit Australia.
We can't afford this mind set that we are witness to on here every day, the disappointed and sore losers, the poor benighted that just cannot come to grips with loss.
Move on left, Australia is under new management, and like it or not, and no matter how many scrollers posted to assuage disappointment, try to be a productive members of society.
The doom and gloom hunted out and posted on here is ludicrous and twisted logic that makes no sense and is propaganda designed to spread an agenda that has no support from the broader Australia, in fact they are delighted with the government.
on 13-04-2014 09:31 AM
Bleat all you like, it is not going to change the Operation Sovereign Borders manifesto. The govt. will not make children exempt because they would be putting children on smugglers boats, hundreds of them.
There is no stone unturned that illegal immigrants will not use to circumvent our borders and access Australia, the 1st world country they desire.
This is after travelling across many other countries just to get here, this is the aim of the illegal immigration mindset that we have been subjected to.
Under Labor they unleashed this tsunami of illegal immigration, they were paralysed to act, to even tell the truth and they are silent NOW, now that the govt. has STOPPED this illegal immigration disaster Labor visited on Australia.
The illegal immigration industry are frantic as they see their raison d'etre for the $millions of taxpayers money drying up.
Cut and paste all you want, seems like you have taken a leaf out of a departed
13-04-2014 09:41 AM - edited 13-04-2014 09:42 AM
on 13-04-2014 09:45 AM
Visa overstayers are illegal immigrants. As for your racist remark about brown people? what's that about?
on 13-04-2014 09:45 AM
I know right - more and more bleating...........from the disappointed Catholics this time............
http://www.catholicaustralia.com.au/page.php?pg=issues-current1
The need for change
The plight of people seeking refugee status in Australia is worsening as the Federal Government tightens regulations covering people applying for “protection visas” as asylum seekers, and restricts access to judicial review and the right to work.
A major concern is the “45-day rule”, under which asylum seekers who have not applied for refugee status within 45 days of their arrival in Australia are not permitted to work while their cases are being considered. The ACSJC and ACMRO believe this may contravene Australia’s international obligations.
Because they do not have permission to work, people in this situation are also denied access to Medicare entitlements. Many are suffering from malnutrition and stress-related illness.
At the same time, access to legal aid has been cut back – an additional burden for people involved in sometimes complicated legal proceedings in an unfamiliar system – and the Government has made it harder to qualify for limited financial assistance under the Asylum Seekers Assistance Scheme (ASAS), (see Background Paper).
How to help
The Catholic community and others concerned over the treatment of asylum seekers in Australia can base their actions on the Gospel imperatives of hospitality, solidarity and assistance towards the homeless. Some responses could include:
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on 13-04-2014 09:47 AM
This is not just about illegal immigration so please address the op about the massive failures of the Labor party and the angst the Dissapointed are suffering.
That is the topic.
13-04-2014 09:49 AM - edited 13-04-2014 09:51 AM
@silverfaun wrote:This is not just about illegal immigration so please address the op about the massive failures of the Labor party and the angst the Dissapointed are suffering.
That is the topic.
Please don't tell me who the "disapointed" are, you have already posted that I have taken a leaf out or something or other, so I believe the christians of this country are also disappointed. thanks.
on 13-04-2014 10:02 AM
More disappointment............... well it is Sunday, so it's fitting for a bit of christianity
http://www.independentaustralia.net/article-display/churches-combine-to-condemn-abbotts-evils,6202
Churches combine to condemn Abbott’s evils
What seems most offensive, however, is that those committing such clear violations of fundamental Christian teaching actually profess strong personal belief.
Such hypocrisy, according to all strands within Christendom, deserves special condemnation.
Several religious groups have sheeted home blame for this week’s loss of life on Manus Island to Abbott’s regime.
Uniting Church Australia president Professor Andrew Dutney, in a media release, said:
“The Church is deeply concerned about the death of one asylum seeker and the injury of so many others. Sadly this tragedy was both predictable and preventable. The Australian Government has placed vulnerable people in a situation where their basic needs are not being met.
“These individuals have fled violence and horror in their homelands – and have now been exposed to it yet again as a direct result of Australian Government policies.”
Former diplomat Tony Kevin, in the Jesuit journal Eureka Street, said the Government is prepared to break any rule or relationship to ‘stop the boats’:
‘The Coalition's message is brutal and clear: we will stop the boats. To do this we will break international maritime and refugee laws, jeopardise Australia's relations with Indonesia, and stand at arm's length and watch as major avoidable violence and human rights abuses take place in PNG. Because all this bad stuff reinforces the deterrent message we are utterly determined to keep sending.’
The Coalition has thumbed its nose at international law according to Elenie Poulos, the national director of UnitingJustice Australia, speaking in a press release:
“The warehousing of asylum seekers in inadequate facilities in these offshore centres is entirely unacceptable. It is a breach of our obligations under international law and diminishes us as a nation.”
Where’s the humanity, asks Anglican writer Rebekah Lee:
‘All humanity shares the honour of being made in God’s image. We’re therefore indelibly marked as precious … This must shape our treatment of asylum seekers.’
Earlier this month, the Australian Churches Refugee Taskforce told a parliamentary joint committee on human rights that the government's proposed changes to immigration laws were unacceptable.
Chair of the taskforce – which represents 16 denominations – Anglican dean of Brisbane Peter Catt claimed the amendments would give Immigration Minister Scott Morrison too much power:
“This proposed situation, in which the minister may be required to 'play God', is relatively unique or rare amongst ministerial portfolios and decisions. If the minister gets it wrong the consequences could be dire for the individual.”
The churches are not just appalled at the disastrous outcomes in death and injury, but at the blatant hypocrisy — a particularly grievous Judeo-Christian sin.
Scott Morrison’s maiden parliamentary speech, in 2008, is jolting:
“From my [biblical] faith I derive the values of loving kindness, justice and righteousness, to act with compassion and kindness, acknowledging our common humanity and to consider the welfare of others; to fight for a fair go for everyone to fulfil their human potential and to remove whatever unjust obstacles stand in their way.”
In 2012, Treasurer Joe Hockey, a professing Roman Catholic and son of a refugee, got so worked up over the case of a 13-year-old unaccompanied child, he allowed himself to openly weep in Parliament:
“But I will say one thing deliberately to this parliament. I will never ever support a people swap where you can send a 13-year-old child unaccompanied to a country without supervision — never! It will be over my dead body. How dare people!”
Now in power, Morrison has made it explicit that the policy of the Government of which Hockey is a living, breathing part is now precisely that — to send children, including those with no family, into incarceration on the Manus Island or Nauru offshore detention hellholes.
Search for some compassion as Morrison explains his policy in a November 2013 Operation Sovereign Borders Joint Agency Task Force press conference:
“… it doesn’t matter whether you’re a child, it doesn’t matter whether you’re pregnant, it doesn’t matter whether you’re a woman, it doesn’t matter whether you’re an unaccompanied minor, it doesn’t matter if you have a health condition, if you’re fit enough to get on a boat then you can expect you’re fit enough to end up in offshore processing.”
It’s enough to make one weep — but not Joe Hockey; not now.
Ten unaccompanied children were sent to Nauru on Monday.
Rev’d Rod Benson is a Baptist ethicist and public theologian.
He told Independent Australia:
“Political leaders who publicly profess to be Christian, and to love God and follow Jesus, but who are drawn into compromise through identification with policies or actions involving evil or injustice should be called to account, and if necessary publicly rebuked by reputable Christian leaders for their lack of love and failure to follow the way of Jesus.
“Christian ethics unashamedly declares that Jesus is Lord and there is no reasonable excuse for the exercise of duplicity by political leaders who identify as Christian.”
Questions for the professing Christian Hockey are these: Was the choking voice in parliament in 2012 pure theatrics? Or has the power of high office corrupted what were once genuinely-held principles? Will you renounce your faith, or resign?
Abbott himself was nauseatingly hypocritical in his ‘Closing the gap’ statement in parliament last week, claiming:
“We are a great country — I firmly believe the best on Earth …. There is no country on Earth where people are made more welcome. There is no country on Earth whose people have more innate generosity to others.”
This was uttered even as government agents were preparing to inform refugees imprisoned on remote islands, having fled persecution in Africa or the Middle East, that there would never be a place for them in Abbott’s Australia.
on 13-04-2014 10:09 AM
But............Tone is going to find the black box. He thinks that he is personally responsible for finding the pings!
on 13-04-2014 10:19 AM
well, he best get moving then and get into his speedos, the pings are going to stop soon.
on 13-04-2014 12:29 PM
@silverfaun wrote:
Under Labor they unleashed this tsunami of illegal immigration, they were paralysed to act, to even tell the truth and they are silent NOW, now that the govt. has STOPPED this illegal immigration disaster Labor visited on Australia.
What tsunami of illegal immigration?
How many seats in the MCG?
How many so called illegal arrivals by boat while Labor were in office?
How many vacant seats if all the boat people were given a seat?
How is that a tsunami of any sort?