@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@my*mum wrote:
All this extra funding - it's the cream - it's what makes it even better, not the flour to bake the cake.
You still haven't read the recommendations or understood what the Gonski report is about have you?
It's not about EXTRA funding. It's not about people wanting more ENTITLEMENTS. It's not about providing extra services or programs. It's not about parents taking responsibility/action for their kids education and moving them to schools that suit them better.
It is about bringing our education standards up to an acceptable level. ACCEPTABLE.
It is about ensuring kids get fair and equitable education regardless of geography. Regardless of socio economic circumstances. Regardless of size of classrooms.
Why? Because our education funding went off course about 2 decades ago.
And the gross result is schools that have been SEVERELY underfunded, teachers that are OVERWHELMED and UNDEREDUCATED, resources that are NON-EXISTENT.
The net result is that the education standard of our kids in public schools is so poor that we now have a generation of kids who cannot read and write and count to satisfactory levels as set out by OECD standards.
Yet at the same time we have poured more money and resources into a private system that didn't need the funding in the first place.
The disaster this has created is a massive imbalance between kids who have the luxury of parents who can afford (financially or geographically) to send their kids to a private school as opposed to children who are leaving high school with a reading age of 12.
So unless you are advocating that education is only for those children who are fortunate enough to come from rich, white skinned, city based parents then I suggest you read the findings in the Gonski report so that you understand what is going wrong in our education system today and then you might actually stop talking nonsense.
Martini, again I say, education is not a federal responsibility.
The constitution says that Education is a State responsibility.
It doesn't matter what the Ghonski report says, it doesn't even matter what the Bible says or what Bozo the Clown says - The Constitution puts the responsibility of Education squarely on the shoulders of the States.
So if our education standards are not at an acceptable level, it is the individual States who have failed.
Soooo, now look at section 96 of the Constitution. What does that tell you?
Why has the Commonwealth Gov entered into education at all? and how have they done it? They cannot do it or impose anything without State consent.
The Federal Gov wants the States to do something, so they offer some free money in return, but this money comes with strings and it must be bargained for. So, what did the Staes who did sign actually agree to? Why are there States who wouldn't sign at all, and still others whose negotiations were not at the stage the deals were sealed?
Why haven't those states said "yep, education is sooooo important that we will do whatever you want us to do if you just give us some money? What did they think was more important than education, that they wouldn't give up?
It is the States that have let education down, not the Federal Gov (of any party) You say they have poured money into the private system? well a) thank God they did because otherwise my kid would not have gotten any education, far l;ess a fair one (and there are many others) but b) did you ever think the private school sector may have secured funding because they were prepared to meet the governments requirements? Anyway, the private vs public debate is a separate discussion, as the fact remains, without private funding there would be even more strain on the Public System and as most of them would not exist, and then the government would be responsible for the FULL COST of educating even more kids, but anyway, another discussion.
I understand very well what is going on with Gonski, thank you VERY much. And I am very aware of what has gone wroing in our education system.
and everything I said stands.
I have one of the kids who was refused an equitable education in the Public System, and there is another poster on these boards who has 2 children in an even worse situation than that. At least they were prepared to put mine into an SEU and teach him how to tie his shoe laces - even though he was capable of so much more (as evidenced by his OP 2 last year) If I wanted my kid to get the education I wanted, I had NO choice, and neither did the other member. And I am positive there are others on here as well, who have had to do things suchg as resort to home Schooling and Distance education etc.
The facts are that the education system does NOT suit everybody, for whatever reasons, but there is no point waiting for the government to fix that, WE as parents and carers and guardians have to be proactive NOW. because blaming the government or the pony in the circus is not going to help our kids get the kind of education which they need or deserve.
It is the States who are not educating our kids, it is NOT the Federal Gov"s responsibility. and the failure of our education system is largely attributed to mismanaged funds, especially in recent years as I have previously given examples of.
You keep going on about the Gonski Report... that's all it is - a report.
They paid barely any attention to the IPP report, why aren't you concerned about that?
Some people can go their whole lives and never really live for a single minute.
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