on 25-11-2013 03:05 PM
Gonski school funding: NSW Government plans to fight changes to deal
Updated 22 minutes ago
The New South Wales Government says it will fight any changes to the "Gonski" school funding agreement it struck with federal Labor before the election.
New federal Education Minister Christopher Pyne has said the Coalition cannot go ahead with the "Gonski" funding arrangements and will go back to the "drawing board".
He insists the total amount of money allocated to schools funding will not change, but the way in which it is delivered is now uncertain because final deals had not been signed with some states.
But his NSW counterpart Adrian Piccoli says it has a "binding agreement" that must be honoured.
"NSW expects the Commonwealth to fulfil its obligations under this agreement," he said in a statement.
"NSW will not agree to returning to the broken SES funding model. The new funding model has secured additional resources for classrooms across NSW, with the majority going to schools in most need."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-25/gonski-funding3a-nsw-government-plans-to-fight-changes/5114880
Solved! Go to Solution.
on 26-11-2013 08:30 PM
Tied Grants
Whilst section 51 of the Australian Constitution enumerates limits on Commonwealth involvement in the residual powers of the States, section 96 provides the Commonwealth with the power to grant money to any state. These monetary grants are typically tied to certain terms and conditions (often legislative) that the states must adhere to in order to receive the grant. As these grants are linked to a particular purpose, they are known as 'tied grants'. In practice, section 96 has provided the Commonwealth parliament with the ability to influence policy matters that lie within the residual powers of the States (e.g. Education, Health, Water, etc.).
on 26-11-2013 08:37 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:If it was OK to call Julia JuLiar, is it OK to refer to Andrew as PorkiePyne?
Firstly, I've never called any politician a name other than the one they go by.
And what does that have to do with what I posted?
on 26-11-2013 08:44 PM
M*M:" If I wanted my kid to get the education I wanted, I had NO choice, and neither did the other member. And I am positive there are others on here as well, who have had to do things suchg as resort to home Schooling and Distance education etc."
off course there are..
some of us always keep that in mind
"And nobody does it better
Makes me feel sad for the rest
Nobody does it half as good as you"
on 26-11-2013 08:50 PM
@nevynreally wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:If it was OK to call Julia JuLiar, is it OK to refer to Andrew as PorkiePyne?
Firstly, I've never called any politician a name other than the one they go by.
And what does that have to do with what I posted?
It had nothing to do with what you posted.
It was not a direct reply to anyone.
It is impossible to post here without appearing to be replying to someone.
I simply clicked 'reply' under the last post on the page - which just happened to be yours.
on 26-11-2013 11:12 PM - last edited on 27-11-2013 02:34 PM by gewens
I've just watched Pyne make a complete **bleep** of himself on Lateline.
He made it clear (and Steve Cannane also noted it) that he didn't seem to have a valid reason to NOT implement the reforms. He out and out LIED about his knowledge of the content of the report and the funding principles underpinning it. He also lied about meeting with the review panel.
Cannane (who is a Liberal supporter BTW) was openly incredulous at Pyne statements.
NSW Premier O'Farrell also publicly blasted Pyne today and said "Can I just make this point to the federal Education Minister," he said. "In all my years in politics, I have worked out that it is best to have respectful discussions and consultations in private, not through the media.
"And secondly, when you move into government, you have got to stop behaving like an opposition."
Mr O'Farrell said the schools funding issue had been poorly handled by the Abbott government."
Even Liberals are now turning on this government.
Mark Kenny says: Like it or not, the Gonski deal was being embraced by state governments of both stripes, and was being supported by voters as the Liberals' own market testing had shown.
All other bad policies/judgements aside, to use education as a political football is a disgrace.
27-11-2013 12:13 PM - edited 27-11-2013 12:14 PM
Martini wrote:He made it clear (and Steve Cannane also noted it) that he didn't seem to have a valid reason to NOT implement the reforms. He out and out LIED about his knowledge of the content of the report and the funding principles underpinning it. He also lied about meeting with the review panel.
I'm not sure that 'promised' carefully costed budget was so carefully costed.
didn't show workings and the costings for some major policies weren't done.
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Economy ‘running on empty’: PM’s adviser Newman
Phillip Coorey Chief political correspondent - 11 Nov 2013 20:56:00
The federal government’s top business adviser has criticised the cost of the National Disability Insurance Scheme and the school funding reforms, slammed wages as too high and industrial relations as being too rigid, and urged the government to push the envelope in order to “repair” the economy.
In a fiery speech on Monday night,Maurice Newman, the head of the Prime Minister’s Business Advisory Council, lamented as “hasty” Tony Abbott’s pre-election promises to quarantine such areas as health and defence from budget cuts and suggested the Prime Minister “disturb the comfort zones of many’’ to pay down debt and cut the deficit as soon as possible.
Vowing to furnish Mr Abbott with “dependable and fearless advice’’, Mr Newman said the economy was “running on empty” and, without reforms and fiscal discipline, it was “facing the prospect of growth with a zero in front of it’’.
“That will feel like hitting a brick wall,’’ he said.
Mr Newman’s comments, made in a speech to a Committee for Economic Development of Australia function, will increase pressure on the government to pay down debt and reduce the deficit.
http://m.afr.com/p/australia2-0/economy_running_on_empty_pm_adviser_tFb2vM3XYbI411jzaHU0gN
Government of ‘no surprises’ rewrites history
PUBLISHED: 26 NOV 2013
Mr Pyne says Bill Shorten “cut $1.2 billion from the school funding envelope for the next four years”. In fact, the former government was unable to get the conservative governments in Western Australia, Queensland and the Northern Territory to agree to a new funding deal. It had allocated $1.2 billion to deals with these three jurisdictions in its August economic statement but they declined to sign up. Therefore, the money was no longer relevant by the time of the pre-election fiscal and economic outlook.
Joe Hockey made reference to this before the election. A majority of schools was covered by deals done with NSW, Victoria, South Australia, Tasmania and the ACT, as well as Catholic and independent schools.
Mr Pyne and Mr Abbott repeatedly committed to honouring funding agreements for at least four years. Mr Pyne has been working hard in the past few days to claim even some of these deals weren’t properly done. But he has struck push-back from those on the other end of the deals.
The bottom line is the Coalition is now saying it will only honour one year of the agreements reached with all of these school systems because, after that, it will have to spread the pot of money across the whole country.
http://www.afr.com/Page/Uuid/c692ec04-5648-11e3-b1c8-465f9441c1e6
27-11-2013 12:16 PM - edited 27-11-2013 12:20 PM
Government of ‘no surprises’ rewrites history
Australia you're standing in it !
Lies and more Lies....that may explain why he didn't return phone calls
on 27-11-2013 01:43 PM
Looking back
Having warned repeatedly that the Coalition intended to deploy this same deceitful tactic in 2013, as senior Coalition figures continued through the year to obfuscate about when they would release their costings, this columnist took heart when Opposition Leader Tony Abbott overrode his Treasury spokesman Joe Hockey at the beginning of the campaign, assuring Australians the costings with bottom-line impacts would be released "in good time". This election, he told us, was all about trust, and he could be trusted to keep his word.
More than two million Australians had voted by the time the costings were released and Abbott made sure the blackout of election advertising was in place before announcing them. What is now known at this late hour of the Coalition's response to the self-declared budget crisis? An Abbott government would improve the budget bottom line by - wait for it - $1.5bn a year. That's 0.1 per cent of the nation's gross domestic product, putting it in the category of a rounding error.
Coalition frontbenchers wanted the political benefit of creating the impression of a budget in crisis under Labor while avoiding the political cost of telling the Australian people what they would do about it.
and
In trying to explain away its refusal to comply with former treasurer Peter Costello's charter of budget honesty, the Coalition claims it doesn't trust Treasury numbers, rendering the Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Outlook useless. Hockey's allegation against Treasury is that it hasn't been able accurately to predict the future. Treasury officials aren't clairvoyants, any more than are the three former public servants whom the Coalition has hired to tick off on its costings. Nor have private-sector economic forecasts been any more accurate than Treasury's.
further on;
A Coalition government's fiscal task would be much more manageable if its leader weren't so philosophically committed to restoring welfare and other income support payments for high-income earners and adding a few more. The Coalition has declared a budget emergency about which it has promised to do nothing.
And for this it expects to be taken on trust.
- See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/fau/story-e6frg6zo-1226713482726#sthash.Bql4WXX5.dpuf
and it was .
on 27-11-2013 02:22 PM
If all is fine and dandy, ask yourself this..........Why are members of Chrissy's own party calling for his throat?
on 27-11-2013 02:30 PM
That is very sad for everybody. Panel of very well qualified people spent 5 years putting the "Gonski" together; wonder what that cost. The states pretty much accept it even if they played hard to get. And now, this bunch of incompetents is going to replace it within 12 months- at what cost? Talking about wasting money! and in meanwhile, it is the kids that will suffer. We need educated population, to compete on world market if we want to keep up with the rest of the world. But it seems that the LNP just want herd of slaves to work in the hole in the ground that keeps Palmer and Gina wealthy.