@my*mum wrote:
Martini, again I say, education is not a federal responsibility.
The constitution says that Education is a State responsibility.
It doesn't matter what the Ghonski report says, it doesn't even matter what the Bible says or what Bozo the Clown says - The Constitution puts the responsibility of Education squarely on the shoulders of the States.
So if our education standards are not at an acceptable level, it is the individual States who have failed.
Soooo, now look at section 96 of the Constitution. What does that tell you?
Why has the Commonwealth Gov entered into education at all? and how have they done it? They cannot do it or impose anything without State consent.
The Federal Gov wants the States to do something, so they offer some free money in return, but this money comes with strings and it must be bargained for. So, what did the Staes who did sign actually agree to? Why are there States who wouldn't sign at all, and still others whose negotiations were not at the stage the deals were sealed?
Why haven't those states said "yep, education is sooooo important that we will do whatever you want us to do if you just give us some money? What did they think was more important than education, that they wouldn't give up?
It is the States that have let education down, not the Federal Gov (of any party) You say they have poured money into the private system? well a) thank God they did because otherwise my kid would not have gotten any education, far l;ess a fair one (and there are many others) but b) did you ever think the private school sector may have secured funding because they were prepared to meet the governments requirements? Anyway, the private vs public debate is a separate discussion, as the fact remains, without private funding there would be even more strain on the Public System and as most of them would not exist, and then the government would be responsible for the FULL COST of educating even more kids, but anyway, another discussion.
I understand very well what is going on with Gonski, thank you VERY much. And I am very aware of what has gone wroing in our education system.
and everything I said stands.
I have one of the kids who was refused an equitable education in the Public System, and there is another poster on these boards who has 2 children in an even worse situation than that. At least they were prepared to put mine into an SEU and teach him how to tie his shoe laces - even though he was capable of so much more (as evidenced by his OP 2 last year) If I wanted my kid to get the education I wanted, I had NO choice, and neither did the other member. And I am positive there are others on here as well, who have had to do things suchg as resort to home Schooling and Distance education etc.
The facts are that the education system does NOT suit everybody, for whatever reasons, but there is no point waiting for the government to fix that, WE as parents and carers and guardians have to be proactive NOW. because blaming the government or the pony in the circus is not going to help our kids get the kind of education which they need or deserve.
It is the States who are not educating our kids, it is NOT the Federal Gov"s responsibility. and the failure of our education system is largely attributed to mismanaged funds, especially in recent years as I have previously given examples of.
You keep going on about the Gonski Report... that's all it is - a report.
They paid barely any attention to the IPP report, why aren't you concerned about that?
I can't be bothered arguing with you about this so this will be my last response to you although I am happy to discuss it further with anyone else on here.
Education is a GOVERNMENT responsibility. State/Federal/whatever - the point is that it is the responsibility of a government to ensure that it's people are educated.
The GOVERNMENT has identified that there is a major problem. The GOVERNMENT has stepped in to get education back on track.
The first step the GOVERNMENT took was to conduct a review.
The Gonski report is not a pointless report. It makes SPECIFIC recommendations. 41 of them. Everyone who have a vested interest in the education of our children agrees/d (including Abbott) that the recommendations are necessary in order to get public education in this country back on track.
There are relatively very few (aside from Pyne) who have criticised the recommendations in relation to the agreement that the reforms are necessary. The bulk of the criticism was/is to do with the cost. But the general consensus is that we skimp on cost at the peril of our childrens futures.
Not all states have mismanaged education. The Qld government has failed Qld children spectacularly. NSW and Vic have neglected it due to other committments. Tassie just has been severely underresourced. But WA have created a fantastic model for their state. But then they have the luxury of mining dollars filling their coffers.
Once upon a time, education was a Federal priority. the funding reflected this. The last 2 decades the Federal has rerouted all that funding to the private sector. Funding to the states for education has fallen to ridiculous levels.
But you know what? WHO CARES!! The sites need funding FULL STOP. The federal government has said "enough is enough" and has told the states to pull their socks up and make childrens education a priority. I seriously wonder at anyone who has an issue with this.
Just because your kids are OK or my kids are OK (in a private system mind you), the fact that ANY Australian child is missing a quality education is NOT OK.
And THAT is the point of the Gonski report.
And THAT is what the funding is for.
They want and need to 'FIX' the system.
And the fact that you keep going on about your experience ("I had no choice but to put them in the private system") is proof that the education system needs fixing and needs to implement the recommendations.
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