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Gonski school funding: NSW Government plans to fight changes to deal

Updated 22 minutes ago

The New South Wales Government says it will fight any changes to the "Gonski" school funding agreement it struck with federal Labor before the election.

New federal Education Minister Christopher Pyne has said the Coalition cannot go ahead with the "Gonski" funding arrangements and will go back to the "drawing board".

He insists the total amount of money allocated to schools funding will not change, but the way in which it is delivered is now uncertain because final deals had not been signed with some states.

But his NSW counterpart Adrian Piccoli says it has a "binding agreement" that must be honoured.

"NSW expects the Commonwealth to fulfil its obligations under this agreement," he said in a statement.

"NSW will not agree to returning to the broken SES funding model. The new funding model has secured additional resources for classrooms across NSW, with the majority going to schools in most need."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-25/gonski-funding3a-nsw-government-plans-to-fight-changes/5114880

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so even if the proposed changes are good ones or beneficial ones they're going to fight them anyway?

 

I'm not sure if that is "putting the cart before the horse" or "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

 

Premature media beatup and hysterical knee jerk preactions reactions again....


What good/beneficial changes? They haven't come up with any policies/strategies/amendments/changes/whatever. They are simply saying they are not prepared to honour the committment made by the former government (even though they themselves committed to it also) and that they will not implement the findings in the report.

 

And what media beat up? The Australian are reporting it dircetly from statements made by Christopher Pyne.

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its not a sense of entitlement, its merely a desire for Pyne to keep his promises. today he reneged on the election promise and committed to one year only. meaning, pre election he Lied.

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All this extra funding - it's the cream - it's what makes it even better, not the flour to bake the cake.


You still haven't read the recommendations or understood what the Gonski report is about have you?

 

It's not about EXTRA funding. It's not about people wanting more ENTITLEMENTS. It's not about providing extra services or programs. It's not about parents taking responsibility/action for their kids education and moving them to schools that suit them better.

 

It is about bringing our education standards up to an acceptable level. ACCEPTABLE. 

 

It is about ensuring kids get fair and equitable education regardless of geography. Regardless of socio economic circumstances. Regardless of size of classrooms. 

 

Why? Because our education funding went off course about 2 decades ago.

 

And the gross result is schools that have been SEVERELY underfunded, teachers that are OVERWHELMED and UNDEREDUCATED, resources that are NON-EXISTENT.

 

The net result is that the education standard of our kids in public schools is so poor that we now have a generation of kids who cannot read and write and count to satisfactory levels as set out by OECD standards.

 

Yet at the same time we have poured more money and resources into a private system that didn't need the funding in the first place.

 

The disaster this has created is a massive imbalance between kids who have the luxury of parents who can afford (financially or geographically) to send their kids to a private school as opposed to children who are leaving high school with a reading age of 12.

 

So unless you are advocating that education is only for those children who are fortunate enough to come from rich, white skinned, city based parents then I suggest you read the findings in the Gonski report so that you understand what is going wrong in our education system today and then you might actually stop talking nonsense.

 

 

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I've just watched Pyne make a complete **bleep** of himself on Lateline.

 

He made it clear (and Steve Cannane also noted it) that he didn't seem to have a valid reason to NOT implement the reforms. He out and out LIED about his knowledge of the content of the report and the funding principles underpinning it. He also lied about meeting with the review panel.

 

Cannane (who is a Liberal supporter BTW) was openly incredulous at Pyne statements.

 

NSW Premier O'Farrell also publicly blasted Pyne today and said "Can I just make this point to the federal Education Minister," he said. "In all my years in politics, I have worked out that it is best to have respectful discussions and consultations in private, not through the media.

"And secondly, when you move into government, you have got to stop behaving like an opposition."

Mr O'Farrell said the schools funding issue had been poorly handled by the Abbott government."

 

Even Liberals are now turning on this government.

 

Mark Kenny says: Like it or not, the Gonski deal was being embraced by state governments of both stripes, and was being supported by voters as the Liberals' own market testing had shown.

 

All other bad policies/judgements aside, to use education as a political football is a disgrace.


http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/governments-double-gonski-backflip-an-act-o...


http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/barry-ofarrell-criticises-christopher-pyne-over-gonski-20131126-2y7fu.html...

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I heard that this morning. The states must be furious. Particularly given how tough the negotiations were.

 

What devastating decision for the Australian public education system.

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From  5 Aug 2013

 

 

 

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott says if the Coalition wins government, it will honour Labor's funding commitments across the four years of the budget forward estimates.

 

Previously, he had promised only to guarantee any deals Labor struck for the first year.

 

Mr Abbott says the decision will help schools plan for the future.

"As far as school funding is concerned, Kevin Rudd and I are on a unity ticket," Mr Abbott announced this morning.

"There is no difference between Kevin Rudd and myself when it comes to school funding

 

 

 

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Also, what does it tell the Coalition if even their own state colleagues are critical of their decisions?

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Is that a broken promise I see? And not one they are forced into by circumstances beyond their control. But one that is deliberate.

 

Nice one Abbott/Pyne.

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I heard that this morning. The states must be furious. Particularly given how tough the negotiations were.

 

What devastating decision for the Australian public education system.


How can you say that before we know what changes are proposed?


Some people can go their whole lives and never really live for a single minute.
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they can't feel that they are supported .. I wouldn't imagine Martini.

I'd imagine I'd be furious to have my name connected to this too if it was me.

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

I heard that this morning. The states must be furious. Particularly given how tough the negotiations were.

 

What devastating decision for the Australian public education system.


How can you say that before we know what changes are proposed?


Exactly.  They are still committed to the $2.8bn funding, aren't they?

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

I heard that this morning. The states must be furious. Particularly given how tough the negotiations were.

 

What devastating decision for the Australian public education system.


How can you say that before we know what changes are proposed?

 

 

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THE Federal Government has been urged to "uphold its end of the bargain" and deliver $260 million extra for Tasmanian schools promised under the Better Schools deal.

 

It is understood the Coalition government does not consider the funding – also known as Gonski -- as a done deal.

Tasmania and the then Federal Labor Government signed a Heads of Agreement in July.

 

But Coalition sources say Tasmania and Victoria have not signed a binding contract.

Tasmanian Education Minister Nick McKim said he had tried unsuccessfully to contact his federal counterpart Christopher Pyne but he would also speak to him on Friday at a ministerial meeting.

 

"This uncertainty has come about because Christopher Pyne and (Prime Minister) Tony Abbott look like they're positioning themselves to backslide away from Better Schools," Mr McKim said today.

 

"We expect Tony Abbott and Christopher Pyne to uphold their end of the bargain."

Mr McKim said the State Government held out for a better deal and that had been achieved.

 

http://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasmania/tasmanian-education-minister-nick-mckim-calls-on-canberra...

 

 

 

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@my*mum wrote:

@i-need-a-martini wrote:

I heard that this morning. The states must be furious. Particularly given how tough the negotiations were.

 

What devastating decision for the Australian public education system.


How can you say that before we know what changes are proposed?


Exactly.  They are still committed to the $2.8bn funding, aren't they?


From the OP 

 

 

The New South Wales Government says it will fight ANY changes to the "Gonski" school funding agreement it struck with federal Labor before the election.

 

 

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