The Shroud of Turin

[*crikey*mate*]

I am part way through reading a fiction book featuring The Shroud, and it has sparked my curiosity.

What do you know?

What do you think?

Me? I want to believe that it is real, but I'm not convinced one way or the other just yet, but I am interested in discussing it with anyone else interested in doing so.

 For something of such historical significance to truly exist would be amazing.

[monman12]

CM : ".......Some of us are inyerested from a scientific/academic view,......."

I am  content with the conclusions apropos: radiocarbon dating on portions of a swatch taken from a corner of the shroud and independent tests in 1988 at the University of Oxford, the University of Arizona, and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology.

However, I do believe that followers of a religion faced with no tangible proof to support their beliefs,  will always grasp at any means to underwrite their faith.

[**meep**]

Thanks John!  I havent seen those before.  Do you have any more?

[azureline**]

Have you watched his video in full?  If not, I think you should before you get the book.

I am probably too lazy to watch videos? tell me why I shouldn't buy it 😉

[**meep**]

CM : ".......Some of us are inyerested from a scientific/academic view,......."

I am  content with the conclusions apropos: radiocarbon dating on portions of a swatch taken from a corner of the shroud and independent tests in 1988 at the University of Oxford, the University of Arizona, and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology.

However, I do believe that followers of a religion faced with no tangible proof to support their beliefs,  will always grasp at any means to underwrite their faith.

John, the carbon 14 sample has been compared with the main part of the cloth.

The combined evidence from chemical kinetics, analytical chemistry, cotton content, and pyrolysis/ms proves that the material from the radiocarbon area of the shroud is significantly different from that of the main cloth. The radiocarbon sample was thus not part of the original cloth and is invalid for determining the age of the shroud.

Why would you be content with the carbon 14 testing of a small portion of the cloth when it has been proven to be different from the rest of the cloth??

[azureline**]

The method of radiocarbon dating, performed in 1988, placed the origin of the Shroud
between 1260 and 1390 A.D.; but the reconstruction of the events that led to that analysis, and
the controversy following its course, throw heavy shadows on the validity of the result. Not
all the procedures followed for the completion of the radiocarbon test were regular. The
history of the events and of the traumas suffered by the relic make it a difficult object, whose
radiocarbon dating cannot provide reliable data.

The analyzed sample, because of its peculiar characteristics, was not representative of the whole sheet.

Consequently, according to the radiocarbon dating it cannot be definitely stated that the manufacture of the Shroud should be placed in the middle of the fourteenth century

[**meep**]

I am probably too lazy to watch videos? tell me why I shouldn't buy it 😉

I think some of his  theories are a bit...... "out there".. still interesting though.

This might help you decide

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9162459/Mystery-solved-Turin-Shroud-linked-to-Resurrection-of-Christ.html

[azureline**]

Thank you 🙂

[**meep**]

no probs 🙂

[**meep**]

still on the topic of "unaxplained" - have you seen the Mike Willesse documentary called Signs from God?

[**meep**]

Shroud of Turin Date Could Be Confirmed by New Carbon Dating Method

In non-destructive carbon dating, the steps of sampling, acid-base washing and burning are eliminated. Instead, the object is placed in a special chamber with plasma, which is electrically charged gas. The gas gently oxidizes the object’s surface without damaging it and produces carbon dioxide.

However, the team admits that it will most likely take a significant amount of information to convince art conservators, museum directors and possibly the Vatican that the new dating method causes no damage.

http://global.christianpost.com/news/shroud-of-turin-date-could-be-confirmed-by-new-carbon-dating-method-62474/