on 11-06-2013 05:18 PM
Sorry to interrupt your no politics idea but I still find the subject important and want to rant...
How dare Gillard make abortion an election issue... There is no way that is acceptable and to even suggest that the Coalition will remove your right to one is scare mongering to the max.
In this modern day time it is incredibly important that we don't use these topics to inflame a false war.
Even if a person in any party did not like the idea of abortion there is no way that they would get the support to make it illegal. Or limit your access to one... or even make you feel bad for having one.
So if Gillard wants to launch a campaign called "Labor Women for Gillard" then fine... but don't pull out the gender card and make something out of nothing..
And personally I find it sexist to have a women's only group calling for women to support Gillard.
I have two sons and I also want their future to be positive and not forgotten but it seems that this PM only want to think of the future of women.
on 12-06-2013 07:52 PM
The sentence was uttered at the end od a 1300 word speech to Women for Gillard. It was obviously an event at which gender issues would be covered. Abortion was mentioned in once sentence. Mentioned once and yet we're boing told it was playing the gender card.
Really?
Interestingly I've not once heard men's sheds referred to in terms of playing any gender cards.
on 12-06-2013 07:59 PM
The sentence was designed to invoke fear, and garner votes. The opposition has no plan to change the abortion laws, do they?
on 12-06-2013 08:02 PM
The sentence was designed to invoke fear, and garner votes. The opposition has no plan to change the abortion laws, do they?
nope!
on 12-06-2013 08:30 PM
The sentence was designed to invoke fear, and garner votes. The opposition has no plan to change the abortion laws, do they?
In Tassie it is the reality. The upper house is debating the decriminalisation of abortion to 16 weeks. Eric Abetz has spoken against the proposal recently.
on 12-06-2013 08:32 PM
So it's not a national issue, but a State one?
on 12-06-2013 08:44 PM
So it's not a national issue, but a State one?
It's both.
Eris Abetz is a Senator who does not confine his opinion to the Senate or his state.
Tony Abbott has spoken about his views on many occasions.
It is both a national and a state issue. It is not even legal in all states.
The point of the speech was about female representation in Parliament.
It is true that Labor women have been proactive in creating a more gender balanced team.
That's not saying they don't have a long way to go in educating the old boys club members in Labor too, just saying they have done something about it.
on 12-06-2013 08:51 PM
Having personal views on the subject and making national policy are two different things. The fact is, that speech was designed as a political one, about something that wasn't/isn't on the political table.
And then the menu thing appears. Labours problem at this time is they think the public is stupid.
on 12-06-2013 08:59 PM
Having personal views on the subject and making national policy are two different things. The fact is, that speech was designed as a political one, about something that wasn't/isn't on the political table.
And then the menu thing appears. Labours problem at this time is they think the public is stupid.
The fact is that it was an event for women and there is nothing wrong with a single mention of abortion in the context it was mentioned.
on 12-06-2013 09:00 PM
The sentence was uttered at the end od a 1300 word speech to Women for Gillard. It was obviously an event at which gender issues would be covered. Abortion was mentioned in once sentence. Mentioned once and yet we're boing told it was playing the gender card.
Really?
Interestingly I've not once heard men's sheds referred to in terms of playing any gender cards.
That was a summary... it is made at the end of an article, speech, thesis... it sums up what the gist of the argument is and makes solid your opinion or debate.
that is what Gillard was doing.. she was summing up and closing her argument.
on 12-06-2013 09:06 PM
The fact is that it was an event for women and there is nothing wrong with a single mention of abortion in the context it was mentioned.
Oh yes there is when it's used to try and gain votes from the opposite party when an elections looming.