Tony Abbott's Support Page

[icyfroth]

A reminder of the debt that Australia has, while Labor can bury their heads and deny it exists the fact remains we have a huge problem with debt and sooner than later the chips will fall, no business, no state and no country can keep operating in the red, eventually those we own the money to will own us. Who will own us?
The state of Qld has debt of $80 billion dollars, Labor are saying they don’t think it’s that bad, Bill Shorten on Australia’s debt, there is no debt crisis, there is a crisis and we are in this situation because of Labor, no one else and the bottom line is Labor can’t fix this problem, their speciality is creating debt not fixing debt.

[cherry*135]

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idlewhile wrote:

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Why did Labor spend $billions on pink batts then spend $billions taking them out and we are still paying $billions for the  remedial  work.  Labors incompetence? no it's much worse than that,  it's criminal murder, they killed 4 young men, we can never bring them back.

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I suggest you read the following link.For some factual information

http://www.homeinsulationroyalcommission.gov.au/Pages/default.aspx

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@azureline** wrote:

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I suspect you may discover that pink batts were never removed from ceilings after all..........................the young people who died were installing foil insulation as I recall.

Metallic fasteners were used, in clear breach of safe work practices.

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Yes, and it should have been their employer who should have trained them, who should have been charged.  So, how much exactly did the royal Commission and all the other investigations cost?  What for, just to show that metal fasteners should not be put through live wires, and that people should not be working in roof cavity in 40 plus degrees, and bats should not be place within 30cm of light fittings or over wiring.  Interestingly, it is the LNP who constantly criticises the unions for demanding safe workplace practices.

[icyfroth]

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@am*3 wrote:

Is that what you did?

I was married for 20+ years before I went to Uni, icy, not that that is any of your business but it blows your theory out the window!

I also went to TAFE before that and got a lot of credits for UNI subjects, so didn't have to do the full degree

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Ok.

This is also none of my business, but I do wonder, after all that education, some of it at taxpayer expense, why you still, by your own admission, haven't paid off your HECS debt.

You said you were under the threshhold where it NEEDED to be repaid, as I recall.

So you can easily see why the government is $26 billion out of pocket due to many ppl in a similar situation as you, with no need or intention of paying back their HECS debt.

Or that many are indeed overseas with no intention of paying it back because the government can't make them.

Isn't Uni education supposed equate to better employability and isn't that why governments provide such generous loans?

What's the point of it when ppl can't find higher paying jobs in Australia and have to go offshore to be employed according to their degrees?

What's the point of higher education if it's only used to make stunningly erudite comment on politics via social media?

[gleee58]

As she started the degree after 20 years of marriage and raising a family, did the thought occur that she might be working now and paying it off these days.  She never did say that she had not repaid any of the amount.   

This personal attack on a poster because she said she has not paid all her HECS back is getting insane.  

It's been going on for weeks and it is interpersonal harassment.

Frankly, it's none of your business what another poster's HECS obligations are.

[icyfroth]

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@gleee58 wrote:

As she started the degree after 20 years of marriage and raising a family, did the thought occur that she might be working now and paying it off these days.  She never did say that she had not repaid any of the amount.   

This personal attack on a poster because she said she has not paid all her HECS back is getting insane.  

It's been going on for weeks and it is interpersonal harassment.

Frankly, it's none of your business what another poster's HECS obligations are.

True.

 But the information was volunteered. And as you said in an earlier post, it's free for anyone to enter the discussion.

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[gleee58]

A bit information was disclosed during the course of a conversation about HECS fees weeks ago.  

Since then that small bit of information has been twisted, taken out of context and used to harrass a poster for no good reason.

Enough is enough.

[icyfroth]

There IS a god in heaven:

Fairfax Media profit plummets almost 90 per cent

Entire Article Here

[nevynreally]

Icy, it's the old bait and switch con game. Use something someone else has posted, claim it as your own, get all puffed up when called out, mates come out of the woodwork. I get another sanction, and the world keeps turning. 🙂

[iapetus_rocks]

Gina Rhinehart just sold her entire 15% stake in Fairfax. She couldn't get Fairfax to agree to give her a seat on their Board where she could influence their reporting of the news . . so she ran away, knowing full well that if she couldn't gain influence, she could at least trash Fairfax  on her way out. (spiteful, tricky and mean)

This is the power of money. It's sort of akin to the power generated by coal . . . it's extremely dirty. and we let it come into close proximity with our news media at our peril. (Just look at Rupert Murdoch and his bought-and-paid-for slanted "news" service.

Fairfax will recover, despite Gina and her hissy fit.

[gleee58]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

Gina Rhinehart just sold her entire 15% stake in Fairfax. She couldn't get Fairfax to agree to give her a seat on their Board where she could influence their reporting of the news . . so she ran away, knowing full well that if she couldn't gain influence, she could at least trash Fairfax  on her way out. (spiteful, tricky and mean)

This is the power of money. It's sort of akin to the power generated by coal . . . it's extremely dirty. and we let it come into close proximity with our news media at our peril. (Just look at Rupert Murdoch and his bought-and-paid-for slanted "news" service.

Fairfax will recover, despite Gina and her hissy fit.

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It's rather strange to celebrate/pray, or what ever the god reference means, the downfall of one of the two remaining newspaper groups in the country.  What is good about Newscorp being the only newspaper choice if Fairfax goes under?