Top 10 Benefits of the NBN

[*crikey*mate*]

What are they?

Why do people want it?

Why do people need it?

How does it compare with what we have now?

How will it benefit us compared to what we have now?

[freakiness]

Another thing that's being overlooked and mislead about is the rest of the world is that FTTP is getting installed. NZ started an FTTN rollout and changed to FTTP soon after. Google has started their second rollout this year. The UK have similar to the LNP plan and they are still fighting over it in parliament and the results are not what were promised.

We have companies bringing call centres and other businesses here. We have the telescope array and innovators from around the world are complimenting the NBN.

Delimiter has a wealth of information about it. They present both sides of the story, which is why I usually link to their articles.

The real NBN the best plan with the best CEO for the job.

[freakiness]

Yes, you have explained it in easy terms - but you just snuck in whilst I was posting. Thanks for that

But what's LNP, FTTP etc? are they different to the NBN?

increase rate in what?

so how does ADSL 2 operate? If they're going to phase it out or the copper cabling or however it operates, then why are they still installing it now? Why didn't they just pop in the NBN stuff instead of putting in the ADSL2 stuff?

LNP - Lib Nat Party

FTTP - fibre to the premises

Increased rate of bandwidth and data used

The copper is the phone network. The network/exchanges have been upgraded to increase the capacity to make ADSL work but there are limits and they're about been reached.

[*crikey*mate*]

That can't be answered really because everyone has something different now. Some have a great service that suits all their current needs while others struggle to do their banking or for their eftpos to work before timing out. So why not just get everyone onto ADSL2? what are the shortfalls of ADSL2?

Some people have a phone service that fails every time it rains. Some have FTTP connections now, privately built in new estates. TransACT has been testing broadband technology since the nineties. They've had ups and downs with it and eventually gone FTTP, much the same as NBN. What we have now is barely upgradable and the software, hardware, power and maintenance costs are high with the upgrades that are possible. The cost will be higher as well by having to programme all the different technologies to function as one network. So the NBN will be cheaper in the long term?

[freakiness]

Who wants to send this stuff? It's a lot of money to send pictures, isn't it? and an awful lot of money to spend without knowing exactly what it will provide, isn't it?

We can already buy 3D smart TVs. Each year the TVs are getting more interactive.

Who knows what's around the corner in terms of consumer products.

That's just touching the surface. As you said technology is rapidly advancing.

The network is being built in rural and urban areas simultaneously. The engineering design determines where and when. The points of interconnect (where the RSPs connect) need to be built first then the network expands from there. The ACCC decided that they had to include 121 POIs compared to the few NBN Co wanted initially.

[lakeland27]

what is the imitation that abbott and turnbull are proposing?

the last part, from the node to the houses remains copper . it renders the rest a waste of time as when it hits the copper all of the speed/capacity is lost.

and how did it get political? How does it give labour a poll boost?

its been a political football from the outset. people see through the cheap deception.

How have the libs kicked a goal?

an own goal is kicking one for the opposing team.

I get that it will improve things for many people - but how and who?

freaky esplained this all

I'm just not understanding why ADSL 2 isn't being rolled out for everyone iykwim (not that I even understand what it is - all I know is it works just fine for me.

it doesn't work fine for many people, increased demand will see this worsen.

Isn't it costing a whole heap of money and going to take a very long time to roll out?

yes, it's expensive. the opposition plan is too, but will need upgrading and more maintenance.. which will end up costing just as much in the long run for a vastly inferior service

[poddster]

From another thread

It might be appropriate at this stage if we can get some consensus on one of the basics in the operation of the interweb.

I will make a statement of FACT.

Everyone please feel free to dispute my statement. 🙂

Internet data transfer flow speed is limited to the data flow speed in the slowest link from source to destination.

Be that, copper, cable, optic fibre or even wet string

[poddster]

Care to dispute that statement ANYONE?

[lakeland27]

Care to dispute that statement ANYONE?

no, dont install wet string, or try and make copper work as well as fibre because fibre optic cable equals the speed of light whereas copper equals the speed of old technology.

[freakiness]

http://nbnmyths.wordpress.com/

Is a wealth of information...

93% of the NBN is optical fibre, it transfers data at the speed of light basically. it's the next generation technology. It literally is a strand of fibre the size of a hair and you can see it lights up as the data flows. 

far out....

What do you mean concentrate on what we already have? Heaps of people have crap service as you know too well after waiting for ever to get your ADSL connection.

the copper has done us for 100 years, it's time for the next stage.

[poddster]

no, dont install wet string, or try and make copper work as well as fibre because fibre optic cable equals the speed of light whereas copper equals the speed of old technology.

You made am oooopsie LL 🙂

By John Curtis
Network World, 01/11/99

As new technologies further define high performance networking, engineers and network administrators alike are taking a fresh look at cabling to further enhance overall network performance. Today's cables carry data signals at more than 50% of the speed of light in a vacuum, but there are measurable speed differences among cable types. Do such differences have a significant impact in overall network performance? Should they be considered when choosing between fiber and copper cable? Let's take a closer look.

Today's leading fiber cables from vendors such as Corning, AT&T Network Cable Systems and Spectran Specialty, propagate signals along the cable at approximately two thirds the speed of light in a vacuum. (In technical jargon, they have an index of refraction, denoted by the Greek letter Eta, of approximately 1.5.) Today's Category 5 copper cables, by contrast, actually propagate signals faster than fiber -- approximately 72% of the speed of light in a vacuum (or 10% faster than fiber).

To determine the real impact of this difference on network traffic, we need to do a little math. If we compare the time required to send data across 100 meters of fiber vs. copper cable, the copper transmission will arrive less than one tenth of one microsecond sooner - virtually undetectable by even the best network analyzers. Even if we were to stretch the distance to 20 kilometers, well beyond what's allowed for Category 5 copper, the difference in cable speeds still amounts to less than one microsecond.

All of this means that, from the perspective of overall network performance, the propagation delays of fiber and copper cable are effectively identical. Clearly, issues such as cost and bandwidth remain key factors in choosing between the two technologies, but customers can comfortably ignore propagation delay as a performance metric in overall network performance.