Trinity doctrine is a LIE.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

For those interested, I include a link to a United Church of God site which very clearly tells of the history of the adoption of the Trinity Belief. It states what I have believed all along - that the doctrine IS NOT BIBLICAL and that ..... well, you can read for yourself.

http://www.ucg.org/booklet/god-trinity/surprising-origins-trinity-doctrine/

[2014eelea]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

For those interested, I include a link to a United Church of God site which very clearly tells of the history of the adoption of the Trinity Belief. It states what I have believed all along - that the doctrine IS NOT BIBLICAL and that ..... well, you can read for yourself.

http://www.ucg.org/booklet/god-trinity/surprising-origins-trinity-doctrine/

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OK .

So now all you need to do is to rip out certain verses from your Bible.

Here is a list that you can start with.There ought to be many more.

1)John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
With this one you could probably just do what your JW friends do and add an "A" between WAS and GOD.Then of course you will need to change the 10 commandments to take out the part of having no others gods.

2)John 1 verses 2 and 3 should come out.

2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made

3)John 1 v 14 should come out.

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

4)Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

5)Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

There are a few for a start.Once you remove these you should be OK.

[Anonymous]

i thought trinity was the doctrine

of mainstream christianity.

never even heard of united church of god.

who are they?

[2014eelea]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

i thought trinity was the doctrine

of mainstream christianity.

never even heard of united church of god.

who are they?

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Originally they were Herbet Armstrong's church I think.They broke away and Garner Ted had one.All connected to that first church of Armstrongs.

The problem with ALL the churches is they all think they are correct.

I have written to at least 100 possibly 200 of the so called teachers and people that follow them about the OBVIOUS errors in translation.Not one of them will reply or admit it if they do reply even though the errors are glaring.

The funny thing is that Paul warned of false doctrines creeping in and none of them think their doctrine is false.

The BIGGEST false doctrine is the one that says a man will arise called THE ANTICHRIST and his sidekick THE FALSE PROPHET.Neither are in the Bible but none of them care.They preach it anyway.

The MAN OF SIN is Jesus yet they refuse to even debate the obvius errors that lead tem to believe that THE MANOF SIN is the fictional person called THE ANTICHRIST.

[Anonymous]

ok thanks.

(had to look up Herbet Armstrong)

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@2014eelea wrote:

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

For those interested, I include a link to a United Church of God site which very clearly tells of the history of the adoption of the Trinity Belief. It states what I have believed all along - that the doctrine IS NOT BIBLICAL and that ..... well, you can read for yourself.

http://www.ucg.org/booklet/god-trinity/surprising-origins-trinity-doctrine/

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OK .

So now all you need to do is to rip out certain verses from your Bible.

Here is a list that you can start with.There ought to be many more.

1)John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
With this one you could probably just do what your JW friends do and add an "A" between WAS and GOD.Then of course you will need to change the 10 commandments to take out the part of having no others gods.

2)John 1 verses 2 and 3 should come out.

2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made

3)John 1 v 14 should come out.

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

4)Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

5)Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

There are a few for a start.Once you remove these you should be OK.

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Did you even bother to read their information - provided by historians who have studied AT LENGTH - all of the actions that took place during the time that the Roman Church help their meetings, all of which were presided over by NON-CHRISTIANS - eg The Sun-Worshipping Emperor Constantine. No? Well, there you go.

If you read it you will see that they deal with John 1, and all of those scriptures above.

But, let me just tell you about Revelation 1:8- OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO READ IT IN CONTEXT TO SEE WHO SAID WHAT TO WHOM.

1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, 2 who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw.

8. 8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,”[c] says the Lord,[d] “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Verse 1. God gave Jesus a Revelation - was he talking to himself?

Verse 1. Jesus sent his angel to John.

Verse 2. The angel bore witness to John a) the word of God and b) the testimony of Jesus Christ to all things he saw.

Verse 8. The body of the message that God gave to Jesus, and which Jesus gave to his angel to tell John.

    ie God said, I am the alpha and omega ... etc"\

   ie if you cannot see that it is GOD SAYING THAT HE IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, NOT Jesus, and NOT the angel - well.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

not to mention the following verses:

4 John, to the seven churches which are in Asia:

Grace to you and peace from *1Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, 5 and from *2Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth.

To Him who loved us and washeD us from our sins in His own blood, 6 and has made us kings and priests to *3 His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

*1 - God - Him who is and who was and who is to come,

*2 - Jesus Christ -  the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth.

To Him who loved us and washed[] us from our sins in His own blood,

*3. who has Jesus made us kings and priests to? Yes, that's right - to his father, HIS GOD. NOT to himself as part of some TRIAD, but to HIS GOD.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

i thought trinity was the doctrine of mainstream christianity.

If you read the information in that link, you will see that they say exactly that 'trinity is the doctrine of mainstream christianity', but they then go on to explain HOW and WHEN it became incorporated into the Roman Church, from previous Pagan doctrines.

PLEASE READ IT.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

trbag wrote:"There are a few for a start.Once you remove these you should be OK.".

I'm OK. I don't have to remove ANY scriptures - I just read them the way they are written and take them as a whole, not just nit-pick a few..

[Anonymous]

what is roman church?

dont think i've heard of it either.