Was Jesus Christ Perfect?

[the_bob_delusion]

What do you think? Was everything he did or said moral/ethical and a reflection of a perfect person?

What would a perfect person entail?

If he really was human, then was he born in sin like everyone else?

[clair.de.lune]

Jesus's fertilized egg was implanted in Mary's womb

:^O

[clair.de.lune]

Oh my, I googled someone on the internet has written this:

Some say God put a sperm in an apple seed and Mary ate it, but there is no biblical evidence for it.

[azureline**]

If Mary was the owner of the egg and it was not fertilised by sperm, the child would have been female, given the father determines sex of the child?

[not_an_eloi]

corinthians 1.13, mate

when i was a child, i spake as a child, i understood as a child, i thought as a child
but when i became a man, i put away childish things.

comes a time, when a person born with reasonable intelligence and logic's got to question these
parables and naive stories,  if they're just too flamin' far-fetched, then there's got to be another explanation

now, tbag's forever postin' up what he puts up as examples of "god's prophecies come true", like for example, birds fallin' out of the sky (no questions, no risk,  he's dead-set convinced).

how's about we look at the event, where the lady paraglider got caught up in fast-movin' updrafts, carried to nearly 10,000 meters, and then dropped.  hypoxia, death (almost).   'ere's the story:   http://www.womensadventuremagazine.com/issues/in-the-eye-of-the-storm/

could it be the same thing that 'occurred to those birds.    or is that just too logical.
mate. 

[rabbitearbandicoot]

If Mary was the owner of the egg and it was not fertilised by sperm, the child would have been female, given the father determines sex of the child?

did you read my post? It was not Mary's egg otherwise Jesus would not have been perfect.

"Only difference is, in Jesus's case the egg and sperm were perfect ie not from any human who bore the sin of Adam".

Claire seems to have a problem with my statement: "Jesus's fertilized egg was implanted in Mary's womb ".

Maybe I should rephrase that. "The fertilized egg that was to become the baby known as Jesus, was implanted in Mary's womb by an angel of God".

Why is it so hard to believe that the being who created ALL LIFE was capable of doing that one small act (creating a fertilized egg and placing in the body of a woman) when it's done every day now by human Doctors.

It's SOOOOO funny when some of you believe in planets full of technologically advanced aliens ready to pounce on earth for it's resources, but you cannot or will not believe in an advanced being that believers call God, Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah etc.

Bob, did you ask the questions because you wanted to know or just to stir???

[the_bob_delusion]

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1. The fig tree - so Jesus said some words to the fig tree and it withered and died - do you know many ordinary humans that can do that? And besides, it was a lesson in faith to the disciples.

What's the lesson? Believe or do as you're told or else you're condemned to death?

2. Born in Sin - Jesus's fertilized egg was implanted in Mary's womb by an Angel of God. The same thing happens today when a Doctor implants a fertilised egg into a woman - maybe the natural mother or even a surrogate mother. Only difference is, in Jesus's case the egg and sperm were perfect ie not from any human who bore the sin of Adam, but directly from God. Mary was a vehicle to take that foetus to maturity - nothing more.

😐

How do you even know this? Do you have information from God that no one knows about

If God can create Adam and Eve and everything else from nothing, Why bother getting a surrogate? So where did this ovum and sperm come from? So Mary didn't even contribute half of the DNA, so she's not even the mother just an oven?

Believers will have no problem understanding this since we know God created all original life and has the knowledge and technology to create a small thing like a fertilized human egg.

You think. Even I didn't know about it? Did you Quilts? 

[azureline**]

Yes.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

corinthians 1.13, mate

when i was a child, i spake as a child, i understood as a child, i thought as a child
but when i became a man, i put away childish things.

comes a time, when a person born with reasonable intelligence and logic's got to question these parables and naive stories,  if they're just too flamin' far-fetched, then there's got to be another explanation

now, tbag's forever postin' up what he puts up as examples of "god's prophecies come true", like for example, birds fallin' out of the sky (no questions, no risk,  he's dead-set convinced).

how's about we look at the event, where the lady paraglider got caught up in fast-movin' updrafts, carried to nearly 10,000 meters, and then dropped.  hypoxia, death (almost).   'ere's the story:   http://www.womensadventuremagazine.com/issues/in-the-eye-of-the-storm/

could it be the same thing that 'occurred to those birds.    or is that just too logical.
mate. 

I guess you'll have to ask TRBAG that question, mate. I'll bet he is watching.

I am more than willing to discuss another of those 'parables and naive stories' though. From memory our last encounter, you said:" you got me on that one" or something similar.

Please bear in mind that I still only have 9 feedbacks so I am limited on my posts, so if I don't respond please don't assume that I will/can  not.

[tasfleur]

Wonder if by some ""miracle"" this thread will get to 500 ... 😛 as the arguers and the arguees thrash it all out for the squillionth time ... :^O

[the_bob_delusion]

So you knew that God performed IVF on Mary. So how did God create the big bang out of nothing?

Scientist have been trying to work at the answer for thousands of years and the religious will say the answer is in the bible. 

You'd just wished they told the scientist to save them a lot of time.