We need to welcome Geert Wilders

nero_bolt
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DUTCH politician Geert Wilders is creating waves – and he has yet to hold a single public meeting in Australia.


 


http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/ 


 


http://www.qsociety.org.au/ 


 


The taxpayer-funded multicultural channel SBS gave what it would think was a lengthy interview with Wilders last night and the taxpayer-funded ABC provided a shorter and very slanted interview with anti-Wilders protesters.


 


But his message cut through strongly - Islamists make poor migrants in Western liberal democracies.


 


We need to hear his message and think about what our misguided multicultural policy has wrought here.


 


Coincidentally, almost exactly a year ago The Economist magazine examined the effect of Islamic migration in the Nordic nations and the picture was not pretty.


 


In Sweden, it found that despite the best efforts of the Swedish state, the city of Malmo is a no-go zone with a 62 per cent rate of unemployment.


 


Angry (Muslim) youths have taken to rioting, torching bicycle sheds and recycling centres as well as cars.


 


Mass immigration, the magazine said, is posing serious problems for the region. For the Nordic countries to be able to afford their welfare states they need to have 80% of their adults in the workforce, but labour-force participation among non-European immigrants is much lower than that.


 


In Sweden only 51% of non-Europeans have a job, compared with over 84% of native Swedes. The Nordic countries need to persuade their citizens that they are getting a good return on their taxes, but mass immigration is creating a class of people who are permanently dependent on the state.


 


In the mid-1990s immigrants in their 40s—the age group that generally contributes most to the public budget—paid only marginally more in taxes than they received in benefits.


 


In Sweden 26 per cent of all prisoners, and 50 per cent of prisoners serving more than five years, are foreigners.


 


Some 46 per cent of the jobless are non-Europeans, and 40 per cent of non-Europeans are classified as poor, compared with only 10 per cent of native Swedes.


 


High immigration is threatening the principle of redistribution that is at the heart of the welfare state.


 


Income inequalities in the Nordic countries are generally lower than elsewhere, but Matz Dahlberg, of Uppsala University, reckons that immigration is making people less willing to support redistribution.


Immigration is also causing culture clashes.


 


Nordics fervently believe in liberal values, especially sexual equality and freedom of speech, but many of the immigrants come from countries where men and women are segregated and criticising the prophet Muhammad is a serious offence.


 


Peaceful Denmark found itself on the front-line of the culture wars when Jyllands-Posten, a newspaper, published cartoons making fun of Muhammad.


 


Immigration has divided the Nordics.


 


The Economist said the Swedes regard their open-armed approach to asylum-seekers as an expression of what is best in their culture.


 


The Danes revisited their immigration policies in 1999, spurred by the rise of the anti-immigrant Danish People’s Party.


 


They tightened the rules for family reunification, made it more difficult for newcomers to claim benefits and set up an integration ministry.


 


Today Denmark receives more non-European immigrants than ever, but it has radically reduced the number of refugees while increasing the number of people on student and work visas.


 


Liberals are increasingly on the defensive.


 


The number of immigration-related attacks is rising.


 


In 2010 Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly blew himself up in the middle of a crowd of Christmas shoppers in central Stockholm; remarkably, he managed to injure only a couple of people.


 


Wilders has seen the problems arise in his native Netherlands and is here to warn Australians of the failure of multiculturalism.


 


He has travelled extensively in the Middle East and was invited by US politicians to address them.


 


Political correctness is so rife in Australia that former Immigration Minister Bowen stalled attempts to bring him here last year though Islamist hate speech imams appear to enter Australia and hold rallies at will.


 


What is good for hate-filled Islamists should be good enough for a Dutch MP and leader of the third largest political party in the Netherlands.


 


Wilders deserves support, his message needs to be heard – debate on this issue is more urgent than ever.


 


Yet the Q Society http://www.qsociety.org.au/ which brought him to Australia has had difficulty finding a venue and locations for his addresses must be kept secret until the last moment to make it more difficult for the protesters to disrupt those who wish to hear him.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_Society_of_Australia 


 


This is what multiculturalism has reduced our once liberal democracy to.


 


Where once we used to pride ourselves on free speech we now need to hide champions of freedom from the bullies and thugs who don’t want or cannot debate its virtues.


 


Shame upon the nation.


 

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**meep**
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Did Dawkins really write that?  Should he be allowed? 😮


 


http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/07/richard-dawkins-trying-to-use-muslim-women-as-foot-soldiers-in-his-crusade-against-religion/

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**meep**
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He has been banned from entering a number of countries such as the United Kingdom, and has been taken to court for incitement of hatred and discrimination.


 


 


 


Hasn't that ban also been overturned?


 


 


 


 


 


 

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Did Dawkins really write that?  Should he be allowed? 😮


 


http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/07/richard-dawkins-trying-to-use-muslim-women-as-foot-soldiers-in-his-crusade-against-religion/



 


Meep, I'd need to see the whole thread to be certain, but I'm pretty sure that blog is a piece of satire aimed at white American women like 'Skep Chick who go out of their way to take offence at petty little affronts to their female dignity: e.g. the man who dared to invite her for a coffee. Unfortunately the poster has been taken out of context so the sarcasm is not apparent.


Dawkins has no sympathy for ANY religion but his whole argument is based on the harm - both physical and psychological he believes it does to members, he would not seriously be telling Muslim women to 'suck it up sister.'

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Australia visit prompts condemnation of Wilders


Far-right Dutch MP Geert Wilders could learn a lot about the strengths of multiculturalism during his Australian visit, community and religious leaders say.


Mr Wilders will give speeches in Melbourne, Sydney and Perth this month about what he calls the “Islamisation of Australia”.


A coalition of 24 groups – including the AFL and the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Melbourne – issued a joint statement in Melbourne on Monday, reinforcing their support for Victoria’s “multicultural and multifaith community”.


“We have a collective responsibility to respect our fellow citizens and preserve the social cohesion and harmony that characterise Victoria and makes our society great,” the statement says. “We welcome challenging ideas and debate, however, inciting hatred and animosity towards specific cultural or faith-based communities has no place in Victoria.”


State Multicultural Affairs Minister Nicholas Kotsiras says Mr Wilders could learn a lot from his visit to the state. “I find it amazing that someone could travel 16,000 kilometres to tell us why he and his party have failed in his own country,” he told reporters in Melbourne. “If he wants to come to learn and to educate himself about the success of multiculturalism and diversity, Victoria is the place to be.”

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**meep**
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Taken out of context!   Of course! :^O:^O:^O


 


*slaps head*


 


 



 

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Taken out of context!   Of course! :^O:^O:^O


 


*slaps head*


 


 



 



 


That was the way I read it, Meep. As I said, without reading the thread it was taken from I can't be certain. there are a lot of sites out there in Googleland accusing Dawkins of being anti Muslim, but they are missing the real point - he is anti any and every religion - even Budhism. he doesn't single out any particular one.(though he may say - and if he does I would agree with him - that some are more disposed towards violence and misogyny than others)

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paranoia set in when some person assassinated the other anti-muslim nutter,  pym fortuyn

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**meep**
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She-ele, stating that Islam is an "unmitigated evil" (according to Dawkins) is not exactly promoting religious tolerance, is it?  That statement is actually worth reading in context.


 


 

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**meep**
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That man actually advocates against inter-racial breeding and claims whites are of superior intelligence.


 


 


 


Isnt there a law in Australia re white supremacy ????


 


Last I heard anything controversial about this was some  white pride festival and there was uncertainty whether it should be legal or not.   If Wilders is openly preaching WS ideals, why on earth is he allowed it here??

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post 106 


 


paranoia set in when some person assassinated the other anti-muslim nutter,  pym fortuyn



 


 


paranoia?  i dunno....dont you think the specific death threats here in Australia, should be taken seriously?


 


 


 

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