Welfare Reform suggestions

[donnashuggy]

Who should they target first? Or last?

[poddster]

Simple logic too cut and dried for you LL?

Pity

[poddster]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

.......  odd as it may seem, these people generally cannot afford betty ford.

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And yet they manage to feed their addiction.

[lakeland27]

too simple.  without rehab places its unworkable, governments find the dsp cheaper than actually doing something (and it is)

if there were dedicated rehab places (enough) i might think differently, but there are virtually zero.

[lakeland27]

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@poddster wrote:

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@lakeland27 wrote:

.......  odd as it may seem, these people generally cannot afford betty ford.

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And yet they manage to feed their addiction.

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 its cheaper than betty ford and the like, thats why.  then we get unto the area of increasing crime rates.. prison costs the state more also..  its a no -brainer to someone who's worked in the field.

[boris1gary]

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@donnashuggy wrote:

Who should they target first? Or last?

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/21/tax-avoiders-australia-amnesty

Not enough money for welfare? Then why the amnesty for the richest tax avoiders, Australia?

The Abbott government says that our welfare system is 'unsustainable' while the treasurer is simultaneously backing forgiveness for rich tax cheats. The hypocrisy is staggering

[spotweldersfriend · Accepted solution]

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@catsnknots wrote:

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@lakeland27 wrote:

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@catsnknots wrote:

I knew several people on disability because they have a drug addiction.... I say they go first. 

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 but that is a genuine condition . it is an illness..

prejudice is unhelpful,  what if i were to say all suffering from MI should be first on the list ? does it have any more or less validity as a point ?

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lol.. I don't care if it is an illness, get over it... go get help.. why should the taxpayer have to pay for anyone to have a drug addiction? 

Are we talking about addicts here or big business and the upper middle class?

[donnashuggy]

I am waiting for poddy to answer my question on indigenous Australians in remote areas where there is no work?

[freakiness]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

too simple.  without rehab places its unworkable, governments find the dsp cheaper than actually doing something (and it is)

if there were dedicated rehab places (enough) i might think differently, but there are virtually zero.

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True. The programs that are availeble, such as methadone don't generally work as they should because they are under resourced to the point of not be able to provide enough rehabiltative services to assist people to find a way of changing their lifestyle, get into work and contribute to society.

[catsnknots]

LL, I stopped without rehab!! Many people can and do...

I think instead of getting extra cash from DSP payments for drug addiction that money should go towards paying for rehab services.... infact how about they go into rehab and all of thier government payments go to help pay for thier treatment? 

SH-wonderland, I am all good now. I got help from a fantastic rehabilitation job network agency and when I got well again I found a great job .... my family helped my financially along with the regular newstart payments.... 

[lakeland27]

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@catsnknots wrote:

LL, I stopped without rehab!! Many people can and do...

I think instead of getting extra cash from DSP payments for drug addiction that money should go towards paying for rehab services.... infact how about they go into rehab and all of thier government payments go to help pay for thier treatment? 

SH-wonderland, I am all good now. I got help from a fantastic rehabilitation job network agency and when I got well again I found a great job .... my family helped my financially along with the regular newstart payments.... 

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 most cant, good for you. the salvation army have a few places at a time, i've managed to get a few into their program over the years, the majority are left to their own devices.  benefits won't cover the cost of the private clinics.  kicking them off will only worsen the problem, it might even trash the few places the salvo's can offer.. i can't see it helping.