on 12-06-2013 11:00 AM
but something to think about when casting your vote.
My personal view is that each person should be able to decide their own future in both these cases.
But in case you don't wish to share your own views I have added a poll.
If Tony gets in your choice will be very limited.
on 12-06-2013 12:41 PM
I think Donna posted the menu?
on 12-06-2013 12:44 PM
Yes to abortion
Yes to gay marriage
Yes to every thing I say 😛
on 12-06-2013 12:46 PM
Still a political thread Margo. If you aren't interested/can't be bothered in politics I wonder why you would even bother making a thread of political nature.
This is a political thread - mentions TA and what choices may be limited if he is elected.
Donna has 1 or 2 threads about the tacky menu.
on 12-06-2013 01:29 PM
I think the problem on controlling abortion is ... where to draw the line.
I think almost all people would agree that it's ok if the mother's life is in danger, or if the fetus is not going to survive outside the womb, or if the fetus is the result of rape or incest.
But, what if the mother already has 7 kids and doesn't have the energy, or money, to give another baby what it needs?
What if the mother is a 13 year old girl?
What if the mother has a severe (but not life-threatening) illness and her health will suffer if she goes through with the pregnancy?
What if the mother is on the verge of a major medical breakthrough (eg is about to discover a cure for cancer), and the birth will set back her research by ten years?
What if the mother is in her 60s and got pregnant accidentally?
What if she plain doesn't want the baby and has no intention of caring for her?
What if the mother is married to/together with a child abuser who has served several years in prison for raping little babies?
And, I could go on ...
But, my point is ... you can't legislate for any circumstance where most people would agree that abortion is "wrong" ... so I say ... let's have it freely available.
on 12-06-2013 02:41 PM
But, my point is ... you can't legislate for any circumstance where most people would agree that abortion is "wrong" ... so I say ... let's have it freely available.
The argument against the choice is that there are people who want to adopt, therefore all those mentioned should have the baby and give it up for adoption.
on 12-06-2013 02:47 PM
I am definitely FOR gay marriage.
With abortion I am a little more ambivalent. I agree women should have the right to choose, but I also think far more effort and education should be put into making that choice unnecessary. I suspect there are too many young women out there who view it as just another form of birth control rather than the invasive and often traumatic procedure it really is.
on 12-06-2013 03:02 PM
Freaki, granted, more adoptions would be nice ... but, it's still months taken out of your regular life ... and for many women, there is discomfort in pregnancy ... I know that with mine, I slept almost uncontrollably at times ... it would have been very difficult if I already had other children.
Absolutely, TGSE. More education and free birth control BEFORE pregnancies.
I don't like the idea of abortions ... but I like the idea of no abortions a whole lot less.
on 12-06-2013 04:29 PM
I voted abortions are a personal choice and gay marriage should become a fact
on 12-06-2013 05:06 PM
how did you do 2 votes? it only let me choose 1 of the options.
on 12-06-2013 05:09 PM
Freaki, granted, more adoptions would be nice ... but, it's still months taken out of your regular life ... and for many women, there is discomfort in pregnancy ... I know that with mine, I slept almost uncontrollably at times ... it would have been very difficult if I already had other children.
Absolutely, TGSE. More education and free birth control BEFORE pregnancies.
I don't like the idea of abortions ... but I like the idea of no abortions a whole lot less.
It's not me arguing for adoption over choice. I don't like the ads designed to guilt women over making such a choice. I don't like men making the point that women should keep their legs together. I think it's largely a female argument and largely a female or a joint decision.
Too many of the LNP players have had a dig at women over abortion for me to believe that they will not tamper with it. Maybe they'll stop medicare payments for terminations. Who knows. It's one of the things we weigh up when deciding who to vote for.
At the moment I wish I lived in New England so I could vote for Windsor against Joyce. :^O