on 23-01-2014 03:32 PM
on 23-01-2014 03:58 PM
The Chief of Navy, Vice-Admiral Ray Griggs, has flatly denied that Australian sailors inflicted burns to asylum seekers' hands by forcing them to hold hot sections of a boat engine.
After footage and photos emerged showing male asylum seekers with burn-like injuries to their hands, Admiral Griggs took to Twitter on Wednesday afternoon to dismiss the claims as baseless.
on 23-01-2014 04:02 PM
on 23-01-2014 04:06 PM
@boris1gary wrote:It is worrying and this is what happens when we have a racist, arrogant PM and govt.
the following is from The Jakarta Post
Tension between the two neighbors reached a new height Wednesday after Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, that stopping the boats was “a matter of sovereignty” and Jakarta should understand Canberra was taking the issue seriously.
President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who suspended cooperation with Australia following allegations that it attempted to spy on him and members of his inner circle, skipped the Davos meeting to oversee the handling of recent nationwide flooding and the eruption of the Mount Sinabung volcano.
Abbott’s statement came only days after Australia admitted that its naval ships had entered Indonesian waters. It later apologized to Indonesia for the incursion.
Political, Legal and Security Affairs Minister Djoko Suyanto said it was Australia that should respect Indonesia’s sovereignty, “which was violated by the Australian navy.”
“Asylum seekers that have entered a country, including Australia, must be managed according to the UN Convention on Refugees,” he asserted in a written statement.
Australia is a signatory to the convention. He added that the country concerned must also handle the problem in cooperation with the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) or the International Organization for Migration (IOM).
Boris, do you understand that there is a very emotive political campaign going on in Indonesia right now because there is an election coming up??? YOu think our last three years was bad?? Multiply that 10 fold!!
They hate the refugees coming through their country... they think Australia is to blame and think we should pick them all up at the airport when they arrive there. Have you read how the refugees there get beaten and locked up?
Why don't the Indonesians manage the people the way the UN Convention on Refugees states they should be handled?
Don't worry... Indonesia won't get too angry, they will always like us enough to take our multi million dollar aid package.
on 23-01-2014 04:07 PM
@donnashuggy wrote:Do you know what happened to their instruments when they went into Indonesian waters catmad? Was it 7 times?
On sky right now they are saying the Navy has produced no evidence to prove anything
They probably did enter their waters...
like we have many times when we have to save those poor souls in boats that are sinking...
on 23-01-2014 04:34 PM
"Australian sailors inflicted burns to asylum seekers' hands by forcing them to hold hot sections of a boat engine."
Pics or it didn't happen
on 23-01-2014 04:36 PM
Catmad, where did you get all that information about how the Indonesians feel and think?
One of my relatives has been living and working there for more than 10 years and has a decidedly different opinion.
on 23-01-2014 04:39 PM
Boris I read more than the ABC websites.. lol
I saw it is a doco about refugees and people smugglers.
on 23-01-2014 04:47 PM
on 23-01-2014 04:48 PM
on 23-01-2014 05:16 PM
@donnashuggy wrote:It is fairly difficult to know what is going on, journalists are taking what they can get I suppose, even if it is accusations of the navy burning hands, this will keep happening if we don't get told things.
I don't think there is any doubt that our new government is very popular over there.
at least the poplation there is loyal to their government, to a man. Unlike here.