on 23-01-2014 03:32 PM
on 23-01-2014 05:31 PM
on 23-01-2014 05:32 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@donnashuggy wrote:It is fairly difficult to know what is going on, journalists are taking what they can get I suppose, even if it is accusations of the navy burning hands, this will keep happening if we don't get told things.
I don't think there is any doubt that our new government is very popular over there.
at least the poplation there is loyal to their government, to a man. Unlike here.
We need to be loyal and disregard any wrong doing?
I am not sure what happened but I do hope our Navy is not responsible, it is pereferable that they did it themselves.
I used to believe that Australian soldiers didn't commit atrocities in wars too.
on 23-01-2014 05:40 PM
Even those supposedly loyal to a government - or country - should not be denied the opportunity to question the actions of the representatives of that government.
There are those on these boards that believe that anyone that even dares to question the Navy about this incident are treacherous, dare I say "un-Australian". We should blindly accept that they can do no wrong.
Well I happen to think it's the opposite - that those that want to shut down any sort of debate on this are the ones that themselves show no respect to our democracy and our democratic process.
If this incident isn't investigated, there will forever hang some sort of doubt as to the actions that took place that day. Simply saying "Oh no, the Navy wouldn't do that" isn't good enough. We the public - the tax-paying public and the employers of the politicians and the Navy personnel - deserve better.
Transparency and open government - that would be a fine thing. As soon as there is an attempt to stifle debate - including calling the ABC treacherous for "daring" to air the allegations - we have started down the slippery slope.
on 23-01-2014 05:51 PM
There are those on these boards that believe that anyone that even dares to question the Navy about this incident are treacherous,
Who are they? I'm pretty sure the Navy didnt burn the hands of those men and an investigation will prove that. I'm all for it. Once the investigation is complete, if it is proven the men lied about their injuries then they should be automatically excluded from seeking asylum in Australia.
on 23-01-2014 05:52 PM
Who sews the detainees lips together when they go on a hunger strike-
the Aust Navy--dont think so -just saying .....................Richo.
on 23-01-2014 05:54 PM
on 23-01-2014 05:56 PM
on 23-01-2014 05:57 PM
did every one miss the amount they are spending on military equipement?
they need our aid like I need a hole in the head
on 23-01-2014 08:33 PM
I think the 24hr news media is to blame...
once upon a time the journo would hear some news or gossip and go and investigate it themselves... they would ask questions and get to the bottom of a story pretty much before it got onto the nightly news.
Now we have a 24 hr news cycle and as soon as there is an incling to a story it is posted up online and put on the ABC24 news station.
I have turned off the ABC24 station and have maybe watched it three or four times this year.... even news online is cheesing me off. same story no matter where you go.
on 23-01-2014 08:46 PM
@donnashuggy wrote:
It looks a bit worrying doesn't it?
I also doubt the Navy had anything to do with it, will be interesting to find out the truth though, won't it?
Donnas why are you worried when you doubt the Navy had anything to do with it? Are you worried that the asylum seekers self inflicted their injuries? Then what? No doubt another inane post about that too.
And is answer to your question, I dont give a **bleep** what happened to their hands.