What is this Ice Task Force going to do?

For those addicted to the drug.

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I spoke to someone yesterday who tried it and said never ever again, not everyone likes it, not everyone becomes addicted either. That isn't to say it isn't addictive it is just that everyone is different.

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And that is the problem, kids know people who tried it and nothing happened.  They do not believe what  the authorities are saying, and that is the danger. 

Addiction is very complex.  Some people get addicted easily, others not.  Also as the drugs are never pure, and you never know how impure they are, it is easy to think that if you try it once and you are OK, you can do it it again, and timing has also something to do with it, I suspect. 

 

It is similar with cigarettes; the companies deliberately had high levels of nicotine in the brands that were marketed to young people, and once they got hooked they kept smoking.  I smoked for many years on occasional basis; I might have a cigarette when I went out, and then nothing for weeks or even months.  I stopped totally to have a baby, and never started again, until about decade later when my ex did something very nasty and hurtful, not just to me but also to my daughter, and I was absolutely frantic and went to talk to a friend, who offered me a cigarette.  It was Winfield, the brand marketed to kids, and I was hooked for about 6 months.  I tried to give up, but every time I went somewhere where people smoked I relapsed.  In the end I just stopped cold turkey, and after few weeks the craving stopped.  I was about 36 at that time and never felt even tempted to light up again, on the contrary, after my chemo (10 year later) I find it difficult to be in the room where people smoke. 

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You are absolutely right, addiction is extrremely complex.  It has physical and psychological components, and one size does not fit all.

 

The experts say that Command and Control does not work, so it will be a waste of money and more importantly, time, IMO.

 

It has not worked in the past with other drugs, it will not work with this one.  I hope that they include Wodak in the "task force", although governments have dismissed his expertise in the past.

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I posted this earlier in the thread and to me it rings true http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/the-real-cause-of-addicti_b_6506936.html

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Last night on 7.30 report, it was stated that 70% of methamphetamine users are recreational users. 

 

So poof goes the theory (repeated here and by the PM) that it is so addictive that one use puts the user into a downward spiral.

 

It was also stated that this telling of untruths leads to young people believing nothing about the harmful effects of drugs, and therefore not listening to any drug education.

 

Part 2 is on tonight.

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I am sure the doctors in Emergency, tasked with attending to some 'users' when things go awry, think they would be well-advised to choose some other form of 'recreation' !

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@watta*drama*queen wrote:

I am sure the doctors in Emergency, tasked with attending to some 'users' when things go awry, think they would be well-advised to choose some other form of 'recreation' !


Those users are not recreational users, but you already know that, don't you?

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i think you will find they are more likely to be recreational users who have "freaked out"

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@polksaladallie wrote:

@watta*drama*queen wrote:

I am sure the doctors in Emergency, tasked with attending to some 'users' when things go awry, think they would be well-advised to choose some other form of 'recreation' !


Those users are not recreational users, but you already know that, don't you?


I think that some, if not most, of those that turn up in emergency depts would be recreational users who have had a bad reaction to the drug or a bad reaction to the drug and whatever they mixed it up with.   

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Exactly my point and the reason i placed 'users' in inverted commas but polksaladallie probably already knew that  Woman Indifferent

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