on 31-01-2014 09:38 AM
Those that overstay their visa that fly in (majority)
or
Those that arrive by boat.......with the possibily of seeking asylum (unlikely) and sent back.
I generally keep up with what is going on and don't understand the governments fixation with boats when the numbers are the clear minority.
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on 01-02-2014 06:12 PM
@lind9650 wrote:I just read this article. It is very enlightening and explains why the asylum seekers destroy their passports, papers and even throw their iphones into the ocean once they see the Australian boat comming.
It is a long read, but well worth reading.
Erica
I haven't read the article yet Erica but the photo's are amazing. People must be really desperate to put themselves through such a dangerous journey.
on 01-02-2014 06:34 PM
With first light, despite the sleep deprivation, dehydration, seasickness and filth, the asylum seekers were energized by the fact that, according to the Indonesians, we would likely reach Australian territory before nightfall. Although there was still no land in sight, the arrival of birds circling overhead was unanimously interpreted as a sign that we were getting close. The sea had also calmed: no more waves crashed upon the deck. Initially, this was an enormous relief. For the first time, the sun dried us out. As it crept higher, however, it proved to be far more powerful than during the past two days, and soon, without a single cloud in the sky to blunt the blistering rays, everyone was longing for the same frigid breakers we previously cursed.
The tarp was brought back out. While blocking the sun’s glare, it also trapped its heat. A couple of people, desperate for fresh air, cut up the box of water cups, which was almost empty, and made visors from the cardboard. One of the fathers in the stern, wearing a Qatar Airways sleeping mask to protect his face, found a length of string and rigged up some sheets and scarves for shade. The bow — the only covered part of the boat — reeked dizzyingly of vomit and urine. None of the dozen Iranians who rushed to fill the space when we embarked had since dared to leave it. Now they were suffering. An argument arose between them and their comrades on the open deck. The tarp was obstructing the entrance to the bow, it seemed, and smothering its already rank and humid air.
“Please,” one woman begged. “We can’t breathe in here.”
There was little desire among the deck dwellers, however, to endure direct exposure to the sun for the comfort of those who had thus far enjoyed comparatively plush accommodations.
Presently, the heat finished off anyone who might have been bearing up. The pregnant woman’s condition bordered on critical. She was flushed and drenched in sweat and heaved dryly, with nothing left to give. Sami was weeping. Amir lay supine. His eyes drooped catatonically, and when I tried to make him drink some water, he weakly gripped my ankle.
“I need help,” he said. “Call for help.”
That decision seemed to be up to Siya. There was a satellite phone onboard: Siya said the plan was to contact the Australian authorities once we were well within their waters. The navy would then bring us ashore. In the past, asylum boats often made it all the way — but the landing can be treacherous (when one boat smashed on the cliffs in 2010, 50 people drowned), and now it’s standard practice to request a “rescue” before reaching Christmas Island. Although Australian rescuers, when responding to distress calls, venture much farther north than where we currently were, Siya wanted to be sure. I think it was Amir’s pitiful entreaties that finally persuaded him to make the call.
An Iranian man who knew some English — the one who in Jakarta told me he was an engineer — spoke to the dispatch. The Indonesians had brought a hand-held G.P.S. device; neither they nor the asylum seekers, however, knew how to work it. Eventually, someone offered his iPhone, and the engineer read out our coordinates.
While we waited to be rescued, the Iranians set about destroying their passports. “So they can’t deport you,” Farah told me. Clearly, though, the task also carried some symbolic weight. Rather than simply jettisoning them, the asylum seekers painstakingly ripped out each individual page, crumpled it into a ball, and tossed it to the wind. A pair of scissors was passed around. The burgundy covers, emblazoned with the Iranian coat of arms, were cut into tiny pieces. The work was accomplished with flair and relish. Only one man seemed hesitant. Moving closer, I saw that the passport he was disposing of was his son’s. When the scissors came his way, he carefully cut out the photo on the first page and slipped it in his wallet.
Soon, on the horizon, a ship appeared. A government airplane buzzed above us, swooped low and made a second pass. The asylum seekers waved shirts in the air, crying out in jubilation. The younger Indonesian performed a dance atop the engine room; he seemed amazed we had made it. Some of the men emptied their pockets, thrusting on him all the cash they had. The Indonesian beamed. “Thank you, brothers!”
@lind9650 wrote:I just read this article. It is very enlightening and explains why the asylum seekers destroy their passports, papers and even throw their iphones into the ocean once they see the Australian boat comming.
It is a long read, but well worth reading.
Erica
on 01-02-2014 07:21 PM
01-02-2014 07:24 PM - edited 01-02-2014 07:28 PM
on 01-02-2014 07:59 PM
A large proportion of people fleeing their country urgently may not have even had passports to start with. As I posted above there would be quite a few avg families in Australia that don't have passports.
If certain people are being persecuted by their Govt and those individuals intend to flee they wouldn't apply for a passport first and alert that Govt to them intending to flee the country.
on 01-02-2014 08:03 PM
If you come to Australia by boat without a visa you won't be settled in Australia.
This is found at the top of the home web page of Australian Embassies overseas.. Iran, this one was from.. Also written in their own language.
Will that put people off trying to get here by boat, as it is intended to do.?
on 01-02-2014 08:14 PM
on 01-02-2014 08:19 PM
@am*3 wrote:A large proportion of people fleeing their country urgently may not have even had passports to start with. As I posted above there would be quite a few avg families in Australia that don't have passports.
If certain people are being persecuted by their Govt and those individuals intend to flee they wouldn't apply for a passport first and alert that Govt to them intending to flee the country.
You're right, but they would have other documents that could assist with identifying them. As I said earlier, a phone bill, library card, driver's licence, school report card.
I acknowledge that not all would and not all may have time to grab something, but seriously, thousands?
I don't know. I acknowledge that the Burmese Militia destroyed Karen documentation etc, so maybe it happens elsewhere as well, but.....
I went to the store before to buy some milk, I took my wallet (with my cards/licences/membership stuff, student card) etc, my phone, complete with comprehensive contact list and my keys.
I was leaving the house for 5 minutes with the intention of returning.
The people about whom we are speaking are leaving for the rest of their lives, and they don't pack a thing? don't pop their wallet in their pocket?
on 01-02-2014 08:29 PM
on 01-02-2014 08:32 PM