What is worse?

[donnashuggy]

Those that overstay their visa that fly in (majority)

or

Those that arrive by boat.......with the possibily of seeking asylum (unlikely) and sent back.

I generally keep up with what is going on and don't understand the governments fixation with boats when the numbers are the clear minority.

[boris1gary]

donna, it's obviously to hard to whip up the "public's" hysteria and hatred against people who clearly line up nice and orderly and get on a plane - doesn't really have the same ring to it.

[punch*drunk]

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@boris1gary wrote:

donna, it's obviously to hard to whip up the "public's" hysteria and hatred against people who clearly line up nice and orderly and get on a plane - doesn't really have the same ring to it.

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Dont you mean the media? They are the ones that push the boats arrivals issue and people discuss what is reported in the papers. Just like people will discuss anything that makes the news.

Anyone in the country illegally should be removed regardless of their mode of arrival.

[purple_haize]

I agree with punch, it shouldnt matter how they got here, they are here illegally and she be sent home.

[boris1gary]

No I meant what i posted, although the mainstream media certainly plays an enormous role - but it would be a much harder task to get people so hysterical about visa overstayer's - couldn't imply that they are queue jumper's for a start. Couldn't imply that they are somehow taking the place of someone "more deserving", couldn't really use language to dehumanise them either, just wouldn't work.

[bluecat*dancing]

Those that over stay their visas are here illegally and should be deported unless they are seeking asylum. To seek asylum is NOT illegal in this country.

[boris1gary]

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@punch*drunk wrote:

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@boris1gary wrote:

donna, it's obviously to hard to whip up the "public's" hysteria and hatred against people who clearly line up nice and orderly and get on a plane - doesn't really have the same ring to it.

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Dont you mean the media? They are the ones that push the boats arrivals issue and people discuss what is reported in the papers. Just like people will discuss anything that makes the news.

Anyone in the country illegally should be removed regardless of their mode of arrival.

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and as for "people discuss what is reported in the papers"

I have found that "discuss" not really, more like believe whatever is written in the paper (often the telegraph) even when all evidence proves otherwise. Then if they see something say on the ABC - all of a sudden it's = oh well everyone knows the ABC is full of left wing bias, have never heard these same people question the telegraph, privately owned TV stations or privately owned radio stations - oh no of course they all only report THE TRUTH.

[the_hawk*]

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@boris1gary wrote:

No I meant what i posted, although the mainstream media certainly plays an enormous role - but it would be a much harder task to get people so hysterical about visa overstayer's - couldn't imply that they are queue jumper's for a start. Couldn't imply that they are somehow taking the place of someone "more deserving", couldn't really use language to dehumanise them either, just wouldn't work.

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add to that those that flew in supposedly had valid papers and entry visa's and posed no threat to national security as opposed to those that attempted to sneak in after destroying their identity paper so they couldn't be identified.

I can see a small difference between the two groups.

Now they just have to track down the over stayers and send them back with a noyte on their papers to never return

[the_hawk*]

oh no of course they all only report THE TRUTH.

Since nearly all media is owned by Murdoch and he tows what ever line on spin his mates in the liberal party tell him to print

truth doesnt even come into it

[lloydslights]

"News reporting" is almost a thing of the past.  If there is no news, make news.  Mostly opinions, not actual reporting.

 Bad "news" sells more than the "feel good" news.  It is supposed to make us feel good about ourselves and our lives; about how "lucky" we are compared to those in the "news".  

And of course, politically, diverting the attention from other agenda which sneaks under the radar.

Media releases from the political arena, ie "GST to increase to 20%" headline. The public moan and groan, up in arms, rallies, marches, etc. So the govt puts it up to "only 15%" and the people feel that they've won. However, are still paying more than before. 

DEB