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esayaf · ‎19-08-2016

To be driving "a bit too quick" in a fuel tanker carrying 35000 litres of fuel.
Just saw a police officer say that preliminary investigation of the accident in Eastlakes where a fuel tanker has overturned the driver said he was going "a little bit quick"
I am sick to death of the way some truck drivers drive. I constantly experience tailgating by B double trucks between Hamilton and Coleraine. These peanuts don't seem to care that they will just drive over the top of a car. Easily killing the occupants while they will only be traumatised. What a crock. They would walk away while thinking that the car and occupants should have just driven faster.

davidc4430 · ‎19-08-2016

there was an ambulance roll over in adelade tuesday morning, drivers been reported for causing death by dangerous driving. happened on a very new highway, straight road.

4 people in the ambulance, only one killed, the patient! when your numbers up it up. so it seems.

davidc4430 · ‎19-08-2016

@lionrose.7 wrote:
you know what they call some one that abuses them self 🙂 🙂

prime minister?

lionrose.7 · ‎19-08-2016

Was it a Tanker that rolled 🙂

bushies.girl · ‎19-08-2016

You may called people that, I dont

esayaf · ‎19-08-2016

We playing the licence game are we.
Heavy articulated HA
Forklift
Excavator
Front end loader
Skid steer
H type tram
I still maintain that the driver is responsible for his truck overturning, not the road.
Hopefully he learns from this experience before he kills someone

lionrose.7 · ‎19-08-2016

I do all the time when I am driving, road rage old lady 🙂 I yell at them you silly Tanker when they cut me off

esayaf · ‎19-08-2016

Shouldn't that be Willy tANKER

go-tazz · ‎19-08-2016

@esayaf wrote:

I am sick to death of the way some truck drivers drive. I constantly experience tailgating by B double trucks between Hamilton and Coleraine. These peanuts don't seem to care that they will just drive over the top of a car. Easily killing the occupants while they will only be traumatised. What a crock. They would walk away while thinking that the car and occupants should have just driven faster.

That's a common occurrence with B doubles all around that Western district,(so glad we don't live there

anymore),

Driving the Portland Nelson rd is a nightmare with the wood chip and log trucks trucks doing the same.

There were a number of rollovers along that road when we lived there,(including one out the front of our

place).

Garden got a good spruce up with wood chips,(most of the wood chips were pushed up close to our fence

and you weren't allowed to get it from the roadside)

lyndal1838 · ‎19-08-2016

@lloydslights wrote:
I'm presuming that many tankers use the route that this driver took.

Why is it that only that driver's truck overturned? And not all others who take that course?

Maybe, because he was "going a little bit quicker" than other tanker drivers?

Also, isn't it the driver who is responsible for his vehicle and load? Not the "whim" of a forklift driver, who may or may not be correct in the loading procedure of hazardous materials.

DEB

Yes, it is a very well utilised route from Port Botany to the airport and southern suburbs. And the drivers have been complaining for years about the danger but it falls on deaf ears, unfortunately. It is like a lot of other black spots on NSW roads and until there is a fatality nothing will be done.

This is certainly not the first or only accident with the trucks coming from PB....there are many that we never hear about. Maybe the driver was going a bit faster than he should have been for the road conditions but so far there is no accusation of him breaking the speed limit.

The driver is responsible for his vehicle if indeed it is his own vehicle. If it is owned by the company and he is only an employee he has the right to expect that it is kept in good order and repair by the company. Drivers are responsible for securing their load after it has been loaded.

Just as a truck driver must have a Dangerous Goods Licence if he is transporting dangerous goods so too must the forklift driver who loads the truck. It is not just hit and miss as you seem to think.

Truck drivers have very little say in who loads their vehicles...they are at the mercy of the wharehouse supervisors where they are picking up.

When my daughter first got her forklift licence she rocked up to load trucks in the warehouse....much to the consternation of the hard boiled old truckies waiting for their loads. Within a month they were lining up for her to do it as they said she was so much better than the men...she didn't bash up their vehicles as much. There were also raised eyebrows the first time she moved a loaded trailer in the holding yard....now she is the preferred driver where she works.

colic2bullsgirlore · ‎19-08-2016

I think what Lyndal is trying to explain re "road condition" pertains to three things vehicle camber, road camber and load security.

All drivers will have experienced this whether they realize it or not is another matter.

Sometimes just misplacing a wheel within a single lane on a double lane road by 6 inches can greatly affect the handling of any vehicle by changing the inclination of the wheels to the roads surface.

The lines \ / \ / underneath this sentence above the picture of... a road... denote the camber angle of the "steer wheels of a vehicle in two lanes of traffic as compared to parabolic camber angle of the road

\ / \ /

See all the different cambers a driver maty unexpectedly encounter.... wow??... who knew ???

Load security

If a vehicle also has the possibility of even a slightly shifting load ( ie. fluid draining through baffle plates inside a tanker still makes the load's bias shift ever so slightly) then the handling of the vehicle can change extremely swiftly, terribly quickly and often without notice. A big "new" pothole can even create a 'wave" inside the tanker

Vehicle Camber front wheels

Vehicle camber angle

is the angle made by the wheels of a vehicle; specifically, it is the angle between the vertical axis of the wheels used for steering and the vertical axis of the vehicle when viewed from the front or rear. It is used in the design of steering and suspension.

The dummies guide to Road Camber

(imagine your ankles were the front wheels of a truck but instead of getting sore when the camber suddenly changes...In a truck thats when the schitt hits the fan and an accident may occur ... )

When you are walking or running at the edge of a road (or along a grassy hill or on a beach, for that matter) you may sometimes notice that the road isn’t exactly flat.

The reason for that is because most roads have a camber to them that helps water drain off of them rather than pooling up in the center of the road.

The camber is any curve on a surface, and in this case refers to upward curve from the edge of a road towards the center.

The more severe the camber to the road, the easier it is to roll an ankle or to develop a muscle imbalance.

When a road is steeply cambered, you may find that one leg is at a slightly lower elevation than your other leg, which can throw your stride off.

The leg that is closer to the center of the road will feel like it is a “longer” leg than the other to your body, so your body will compensate through the way that it bends at the knee, how much your foot flattens on impact, and how much your leg rotates inward as you are running. This can lead to ~~knee or hip soreness.~~ a bloody big unforseen accident

Not saying that's what caused the accident ...but... just sayin' a professional driver has lots of variables that can change quickly and sometimes very unexpectedly whether caused by road conditons, shifting poads or other drivers actions...