What kind of peanut do you have to be

[esayaf]

To be driving "a bit too quick" in a fuel tanker carrying 35000 litres of fuel.
Just saw a police officer say that preliminary investigation of the accident in Eastlakes where a fuel tanker has overturned the driver said he was going "a little bit quick"
I am sick to death of the way some truck drivers drive. I constantly experience tailgating by B double trucks between Hamilton and Coleraine. These peanuts don't seem to care that they will just drive over the top of a car. Easily killing the occupants while they will only be traumatised. What a crock. They would walk away while thinking that the car and occupants should have just driven faster.

[colic2bullsgirlore]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

there was an ambulance roll over in adelade tuesday morning, drivers been reported for causing death by dangerous driving. happened on a very new highway, straight road.

4 people in the ambulance, only one killed, the patient! when your numbers up it up. so it seems.

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yep...don't even have to be in the ambulance....

A paramedic who returned a positive drug test was not to blame for the accident which killed a mother and daughter on a NSW highway in November 2015.

The paramedic driving the ambulance that collided with Rachel and Dixie Erlandson’s vehicle was not to blame for the accident, investigating police have the court.

However, the 57-year-old Boambee woman was fined $650 for having an illicit drug present in her blood, less than 0.001 milligrammes of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, and $250 for failing to wear her seatbelt properly.

In documents tabled by the NSW police at the Macksville Court House last week, it was revealed that despite having cannabis in her system, the level was such that there was no impairment to the paramedic’s ability to drive.

There was heavy traffic and the road was dry. It was daylight, and although roadworks were taking place, police crash investigators said the road was in good condition.

The warning lights and sirens of the ambulance were operating. 

As a result of the impact, the ambulance rolled onto its side.

None of the occupants in the ambulance were seriously injured and all four made considerable attempts to save Rachel and Dixie.

Despite these efforts both died at the scene.

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/videos/double-fatality-after-crash-involving-ambulance/33575/

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/06/15/18/13/nsw-paramedic-took-cannabis-the-night-before-ambul...

[freshwater-2]

 you know what they call some one that abuses them self.

A self romancer ?

[lloydslights]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

Driving "a bit too quick" does not necessarily mean speeding.

If you know the area at all the roads are not condusive to big trucks...the corners are too sharp, especially for trucks carrying individual containers of liquids.   Take the corner a bit fast and the containers can move, causing the whole truck to tip over.

There have been complaints for years about the transporting of chemicals from Port Botany through the suburbs.

And the problems can be compounded if the truck has not been loaded properly....and that is often not the fault of the driver.  They just have to accept the fork lift operator assigned to them.  It is a different matter when the tankers are loaded with bulk liquids.

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@lloydslights wrote:

I'm presuming that many tankers use the route that this driver took.

Why is it that only that driver's truck overturned?  And not all others who take that course?

Maybe, because he was "going a little bit quicker" than other tanker drivers?

Also, isn't it the driver who is responsible for his vehicle and load?  Not the "whim" of  a forklift driver, who may or may not be correct in the loading procedure of hazardous materials. 

DEB

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Yes, it is a very well utilised route from Port Botany to the airport and southern suburbs.  And the drivers have been complaining for years about the danger but it falls on deaf ears, unfortunately.  It is like a lot of other black spots on NSW roads and until there is a fatality nothing will be done.

This is certainly not the first or only accident with the trucks coming from PB....there are many that we never hear about.  Maybe the driver was going a bit faster than he should have been for the road conditions but so far there is no accusation of him breaking the speed limit.

The driver is responsible for his vehicle if indeed it is his own vehicle.  If it is owned by the company and he is only an employee he has the right to expect that it is kept in good order and repair by the company.  Drivers are responsible for securing their load after it has been loaded.

Just as a truck driver must have a Dangerous Goods Licence if he is transporting dangerous goods so too must the forklift driver who loads the truck.   It is not just hit and miss as you seem to think.

Truck drivers have very little say in who loads their vehicles...they are at the mercy of the wharehouse supervisors where they are picking up.

When my daughter first got her forklift licence she rocked up to load trucks in the warehouse....much to the consternation of the hard boiled old truckies waiting for their loads.   Within a month they were lining up for her to do it as they said she was so much better than the men...she didn't bash up their vehicles as much.  There were also raised eyebrows the first time she moved a loaded trailer in the holding yard....now she is the preferred driver where she works.

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Lyndal, it was the original statement that gave the impression  of a "hit and miss" forklift operator.

Of course there are more accidents than is generally known.  

However, this one made the news, and has forced the road to be closed.  .

And if media reports are correct, will need the damaged road surface removed and resurfaced before re-opening.

DEB

[lyndal1838]

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@lloydslights wrote:

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Lyndal, it was the original statement that gave the impression  of a "hit and miss" forklift operator.

Of course there are more accidents than is generally known.  

However, this one made the news, and has forced the road to be closed.  .

And if media reports are correct, will need the damaged road surface removed and resurfaced before re-opening.

DEB

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OK, maybe it was poorly worded but I was trying to convey the point that it is not only the driver who is involved in the loading of vehicle, particularly where chemical are concerned.   The companies would only employ fork lift drivers with the correct qualifications.

To a certain degree I am glad this accident has caused inconvenience....no-one was injured or killed and it does highlight the problems of traffic to and from Port Botany that the truckies have been complaining about for as long as I can remember.

[lyndal1838]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

Nup    ... she can investigate aything that she likes, no biggie to me     .... 

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Maybe you should read my post properly before making statement like this.

Nowhere did I say my daughter was "investigating" anything....just that she was making educated guesses as to what may have contributed to the accident, just as the OP did....but with the advantage of working in the area and knowing the road conditions.

[esayaf]

So Lyndal expects people to read her post. How about reading mine and acknowledging that at no point did I claim that the driver was speeding. The police officer said that the driver said he was going "a little bit quick". That is his admission that he tried to take the bend at a higher speed than was safe. Thus his truck overturned.
Bulk fuel tankers are not loaded by a forklift.
Most of your argument is completely irrelevant in this case.
Please continue with your blame shifting if you desire as I know this driver needs to wake up to the seriousness of his occupation and the consequences that can occur if he continues to take dangerous corners "a little bit quick"