on 02-10-2013 06:58 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/30/us/new-york-bikers-road-rage-video/
The New York City Police Department said a man driving a Range Rover with his wife and 2-year-old daughter inside Sunday struck a motorcyclist on Manhattan's West Side Highway, breaking his leg.
The SUV driver pulled over, and the bikers surrounded his vehicle, hitting it and spiking the tires, police said. The driver pulled away, hitting three more bikers in the process, police said.
Should the driver in the SUV be charged?
What do you think of bikers?
What would you have done if you were the driver in the SUV?
on 03-10-2013 02:21 PM
@freakiness wrote:
@the_hawk* wrote:Its no different to a heap of football, soccer, cricket or any other spectators blocking a road after a match, it doesnt give people the right to run them down.
If they start slashing my tyres and attacking my vehicle I'm not going to hang around to see how bad it gets.
I doubt you would either.
what other option did the driver have to remove himself and his family from that situation? how would you have handled it if you were confronted with exactly what the driver was confronted with?
on 03-10-2013 02:29 PM
@crikey*mate wrote:The case of Scott vs Shepherd provides the precedent for how situations like this are handled by law.
Someone was hurt. No matter why, charges should be laid. It is not up to the police to determine who gets exonerated.
Why do you keep saying that? The question was did the driver of the SUV take reasonable, unavoidable action under the circumstances.
e.g. If your only option to avoid being killed is to kill, it doesn't follow you will be charge with manslaughter.
on 03-10-2013 02:39 PM
@**freethinker_bob** wrote:http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/30/us/new-york-bikers-road-rage-video/
The New York City Police Department said a man driving a Range Rover with his wife and 2-year-old daughter inside Sunday struck a motorcyclist on Manhattan's West Side Highway, breaking his leg.
The SUV driver pulled over, and the bikers surrounded his vehicle, hitting it and spiking the tires, police said. The driver pulled away, hitting three more bikers in the process, police said.
Should the driver in the SUV be charged?
What do you think of bikers?
What would you have done if you were the driver in the SUV?
No Bob, here is your OP
it simply asks "Should the driver in the SUV be charged?"
on 03-10-2013 02:46 PM
@**meep** wrote:
@freakiness wrote:
@the_hawk* wrote:Its no different to a heap of football, soccer, cricket or any other spectators blocking a road after a match, it doesnt give people the right to run them down.
If they start slashing my tyres and attacking my vehicle I'm not going to hang around to see how bad it gets.
I doubt you would either.
what other option did the driver have to remove himself and his family from that situation? how would you have handled it if you were confronted with exactly what the driver was confronted with?
As I just said, I would not stick around to see how bad it got. I would drive off while I could.
on 03-10-2013 02:51 PM
So following that logic, the bikers who congregated holding up traffic illegally should be the ones charged.
"But he who does the first wrong is answerable for all the consequential damages..."
on 03-10-2013 02:51 PM
I was asking Hawk, that was why I highlighted his comment.
on 03-10-2013 02:53 PM
on 03-10-2013 02:56 PM
@crikey*mate wrote:
@**freethinker_bob** wrote:http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/30/us/new-york-bikers-road-rage-video/
The New York City Police Department said a man driving a Range Rover with his wife and 2-year-old daughter inside Sunday struck a motorcyclist on Manhattan's West Side Highway, breaking his leg.
The SUV driver pulled over, and the bikers surrounded his vehicle, hitting it and spiking the tires, police said. The driver pulled away, hitting three more bikers in the process, police said.
Should the driver in the SUV be charged?
What do you think of bikers?
What would you have done if you were the driver in the SUV?
No Bob, here is your OP
it simply asks "Should the driver in the SUV be charged?"
But you're using the law to answer that however the law doesn't support what you're saying.
on 03-10-2013 02:58 PM
@crikey*mate wrote:The case of Scott vs Shepherd provides the precedent for how situations like this are handled by law.
Someone was hurt. No matter why, charges should be laid. It is not up to the police to determine who gets exonerated.
Im not posting to argue, I am just finding it interesting. Have a look at the thread where the baby was found dead in the car and apparently no one was charged (I dont know that as fact). Assuming it is correct that the parents arent charged, why not (looking at it legally rather than compassionately)
If you answer, do it in that thread so as not send this off topic again.
on 03-10-2013 02:59 PM
@freakiness wrote:
@**meep** wrote:I was asking Hawk, that was why I highlighted his comment.
😄 I didn't even notice it was bolded 😄
Just was a little confused abotu what you were asking 😄
sorry about the confusion, i should have just quoted Hawk