on 15-06-2015 02:18 PM
16-06-2015 07:36 PM - edited 16-06-2015 07:36 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@***super_nova*** wrote:There is a difference between giving payment for info; I suspect it has always been done, and paying someone to take boatload of foreign nationals to another country; which is people smuggling. 🙂
However, paying people smugglers is reportedly an established practice dating back to 2010 under the Rudd government.
Considering that Australian government under Rudd, or Gillard, never turned boat back, they obviously were not paying the smugglers to smuggle people. As i said, all governments, or their agents, pay various unsavory characters for info. Always have done always will.
on 15-06-2015 02:35 PM
Never. That will take away their raison d'etre.
on 15-06-2015 04:13 PM
Ethelred The Unready tried it with the Vikings - it was called Danegeld. It didn't work.
on 15-06-2015 07:11 PM
When is the government going to start paying terrorists?
We already do. A large percentage of those now fighting for ISIL were on some form of disability pension.
on 16-06-2015 12:49 AM
Just FYI
No Australian jihadis overseas were on the dole, Senate committee told
Lenore Taylor Political editor
Wednesday 27 May 2015 18.56 AEST Last modified on Wednesday 27 May 2015 19.25 AEST
Despite News Corp claims that ‘almost all’ Australian jihadis overseas were collecting welfare and Tony Abbott’s vow to stop the payments, Senate estimates hears not one was receiving benefit.
on 16-06-2015 09:31 AM
exactly AB
here is the beat up story
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/aussie-jihadists-were-on-the-dole/story-fni0cx12-122723304... dated Feb 21
and here is the truth dated June
The Attorney-General's department has confirmed not a single foreign fighter has had welfare payments cancelled under new laws, because none was found to be receiving payments.
Despite News Corp claims that ‘almost all’ Australian jihadis overseas were collecting welfare and Tony Abbott’s vow to stop the payments, Senate estimates hears not one was receiving benefits
on 16-06-2015 05:36 PM
When is the government going to start paying terrorists?
Not to terrorize us?
????
16-06-2015 05:38 PM - edited 16-06-2015 05:41 PM
oh lol - i get it now
Reports have emerged that under Labor, Australian spies paid Indonesian informers close to people smugglers as part of efforts to destroy the trade.
Mr Shorten said he would not comment on Australian Secret Intelligence Service matters and nor should any serious leader.
Labor is refusing to comment on reports people smugglers were given cash payments in 2010 when it was in government.
Shadow Assistant Treasurer Andrew Leigh told Sky News, Labor did not pay to turn boats around but refused to say if people smugglers were paid in any circumstances.
'It would not be responsible for me to go into details', he said.
Labor did not have a turn back policy so payments would not have been made explicitly to turn back boats under the Rudd/Gillard government.
However, paying people smugglers is reportedly an established practice dating back to 2010 under the Rudd government.
on 16-06-2015 05:56 PM
There is a difference between giving payment for info; I suspect it has always been done, and paying someone to take boatload of foreign nationals to another country; which is people smuggling. 🙂
on 16-06-2015 06:19 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:oh lol - i get it now
Reports have emerged that under Labor, Australian spies paid Indonesian informers close to people smugglers as part of efforts to destroy the trade.
Mr Shorten said he would not comment on Australian Secret Intelligence Service matters and nor should any serious leader.
Labor is refusing to comment on reports people smugglers were given cash payments in 2010 when it was in government.
Shadow Assistant Treasurer Andrew Leigh told Sky News, Labor did not pay to turn boats around but refused to say if people smugglers were paid in any circumstances.
'It would not be responsible for me to go into details', he said.
Labor did not have a turn back policy so payments would not have been made explicitly to turn back boats under the Rudd/Gillard government.
However, paying people smugglers is reportedly an established practice dating back to 2010 under the Rudd government.
Actually i'm pretty sure that it was also the practice under the Howard Goverment as well