on 11-09-2015 07:56 PM
This from men who didnt have sex yet..
Catholics can now remarry after they are divorced, senior cardinals say... but only if they abstain from sex Proposal was put forward by a group of 11 senior Catholic leaders Made it as backlash against Pope Francis’ attempt to give divorcees a fast-track route to forgiveness Likely to add to the confusion and pain felt by many divorced Catholic Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3230133/Catholics-remarry-divorced-senior-cardinals-say-abst...on 12-09-2015 05:28 PM
Man made laws ..when it suits them..
on 12-09-2015 05:29 PM
IMO, the church is saying that the union of the parents who bore 3 children, didnt happen with the Church's blessing. ... so what does the CHURCH think of those 3 children? (from a religious perspective?
9. If I receive an annulment, will my children be illegitimate?
This is the number one question asked regarding annulments, and it is very worrisome to many parents. They are often deeply concerned that a declaration of nullity will affect the legitimate status of their children should an annulment be granted. This should not be a concern. At the time of the child’s birth, they were born of a legal marriage in civil law and a putative marriage in canon law (which means that everyone thought in good faith that the marriage was valid). So at the moment of the child's birth, he or she was civilly and canonically legitimate. An annulment DOES NOT retroactively affect a child's legitimacy.
on 12-09-2015 05:40 PM
@tommy.irene wrote:Man made laws ..when it suits them..
how many laws do you know that
are not man made?
what do you think they are based on?
why were they made?
on 13-09-2015 03:07 AM
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@tommy.irene wrote:Man made laws ..when it suits them..
how many laws do you know that
are not man made?
what do you think they are based on?
why were they made?
Churches make new rules when it suits them..
on 14-09-2015 03:55 PM
My grandparents couldn't marry because my grandmother [RC] was not allowed to divorce her husband, even though they had seperated some years earlier.
on 14-09-2015 04:09 PM
on 14-09-2015 04:14 PM
The Roman Catholic Church did - this was around 80 years ago.
14-09-2015 04:19 PM - edited 14-09-2015 04:21 PM
To me, that looks like the church held your grandparents in the grip of utter fear Bluecat, and that, it would seem, is the totality of brainwashing at its worst.
Anyone can get a divorce, however, if the dogma, superstition, myth and sheer autocracy of that (or any other) religion has become so psychiatrically and pathologically imbedded in a person, the fear factor seems to kick in and stop all rational thought from emergence back to reality.
Very sad, but for many, that's how it rules their lives and from what I've seen, to some degree even in this, the 21st century, still does.
on 14-09-2015 04:24 PM
Definitely, my grandmother, Tas. So that my dad was legally deemd to be legitimate, she gave my dad her husband's surname instead my grandfather's. My dad later changed it by deed poll to his father's surname.
on 14-09-2015 04:33 PM
@azureline** wrote:
How can the Church stop anyone from getting a divorce?
they cant.
never could.
church laws have nothing to do
with divorces.
same as sharia law has nothing
to do with australian law.