11-08-2013 05:28 PM - edited 11-08-2013 05:30 PM
on 12-08-2013 12:53 PM
on 12-08-2013 01:02 PM
A bit like people being more interested and making a huge mountain out of why wasnt Tony wearing a wedding ring and thats so typical of him etc etc and posting and discussing it on this thread. YEP but thats OK on here as its about the bitter enemy the evil ABBOTTABBOTTABBOTT
Bottom line freakie is no matter how its glossed over RUDD cheated and failed and only the dedicated few cant cope with that fact.
Kevin Rudd accused of cheating in leaders' debate
THE Coalition has accused Kevin Rudd of cheating in last night's leaders' debate after he relied on pre-prepared notes in a clear breach of the rules.
Opposition campaign spokesman Mathias Cormann said the Prime Minister's credibility had been undermined.
“He says the election is all about trust and then he cheats in the debate,” Senator Cormann told ABC radio.
“Last night Tony Abbott was looking like a leader, Kevin Rudd was looking like a reader.”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/election-2013/kevin-rudd-accused-of-cheating-in-lea...
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@freakiness wrote:It's just stupid that people are more interested in the paper and pens than the substance of the comments.
on 12-08-2013 01:08 PM
" What's the point of allowing paper and pen if not for notes?"
To note/remember points raised by an oppent during the debate, not a source of ammunition (sorry LL & DY) from before.
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on 12-08-2013 01:11 PM - last edited on 12-08-2013 01:37 PM by luna-2304
A few bits of paper is not cheating. All the talk of cheating seems more a way of taking the focus off any substance that may have been discussed.
What I saw of it was fairly boring.
It does seem that one side has a view to the future and one side has a view to the past.
on 12-08-2013 01:50 PM
Karen & freddie are making me laugh. Stop it.
Did you hear Oakes says Abbott won the debate? He said it again this morning
am3 is going to start giving karen kudos on this thread soon
on 12-08-2013 01:56 PM
But despite claims the picture of Abbott with notes was from last night's debate, the photo was in fact taken during the 2010 leader's debate with former prime minister Julia Gillard.
Upon further inspection the pictures reveal numerous discrepencies; last night Speers' lecturn was not centre stage, in comparison to 2010. Abbott's hair style and tie are also markedly different.
However the rules for both 2010 and 2013 Leader's Debates state: "The Leaders may have a pen and paper on the lecturn and no other documentation or props."
on 12-08-2013 02:02 PM
on 12-08-2013 02:03 PM
I kudo'd you for am3 cause I know she really wants to
on 12-08-2013 02:05 PM
@izabsmiling wrote:But despite claims the picture of Abbott with notes was from last night's debate, the photo was in fact taken during the 2010 leader's debate with former prime minister Julia Gillard.
Upon further inspection the pictures reveal numerous discrepencies; last night Speers' lecturn was not centre stage, in comparison to 2010. Abbott's hair style and tie are also markedly different.
However the rules for both 2010 and 2013 Leader's Debates state: "The Leaders may have a pen and paper on the lecturn and no other documentation or props."
The image mentioned here and discussed elsewhere was from last night.
The one from 2010 is clearly not from last night as everything is different. You'd have to be blind and stupid to try to use that as an example of Abbott using notes.
On the footage last night you can see paper in front of both men and both men writing on said paper at various times.
How stupid have we become that trivial BS takes a place of more importance than substance?
I can't even post funny pics about how silly it is because they get reported and removed.
on 12-08-2013 02:08 PM