11-08-2013 05:28 PM - edited 11-08-2013 05:30 PM
on 12-08-2013 06:11 PM
so there is in fact no rule. you can use notes and the 'notes' angle another distraction of no substance. i hope they have a proper debate as that was a joint press conference. nobody is the wiser to abbotts agenda, so i have to refer back to the IPA wish list .
on 12-08-2013 06:17 PM
Where were the reams of paper?
In the debate I saw he has a few A4 pages stapled together. Abbott had a few too.
This argument is just much ado about nothing.
on 12-08-2013 06:43 PM
@nero_wulf wrote:Abbott had a PEN and PAPER to take notes and that was allowed and thats all he had
RUDD CHEATED Abbott DIDNT........
"According to the rules signed off by both parties and issued by the National Press Club on Friday, both Mr Abbott and Mr Rudd were prohibited from having pre-prepared paperwork.
"The leaders may have a pen and paper on the lectern and no other documentation or props,'' the rules state"
If that is so, then Abbott cheated in the 2010 debate with Gillard. He had notes which he read and referred to.
on 12-08-2013 07:09 PM
@polksaladallie wrote:
If that is so, then Abbott cheated in the 2010 debate with Gillard. He had notes which he read and referred to.
That link only mentions THIS debate, not any previous, and that both sides signed it agreeing to not having prepared paperwork.
on 12-08-2013 07:13 PM
I don't care who had notes..... it wasn't a court of law....... nothing will change because someone had notes.
Reams??
My Oh is a Lib voter.... he just asked me who told me Abbott won the debate....... um... Channel 7 dear.
I was watching the ABC and Rudd clearly won? he says, lol
on 12-08-2013 07:20 PM
No, it wasn't a court of law. It was an agreement made between the two parties involved. Someone decided not to honour that agreement, and while it's possible Mr Rudd did not know about it (doubtful) brushing it off like it didn't matter is quite childish. Wasn't me, I didn't know about it, nobody told me.
on 12-08-2013 07:20 PM
on 12-08-2013 07:22 PM
Of course Rudd won, the worm/snake was a clear indicator of how the audience voted.
on 12-08-2013 07:24 PM
@nevynreally wrote:
No, it wasn't a court of law. It was an agreement made between the two parties involved. Someone decided not to honour that agreement, and while it's possible Mr Rudd did not know about it (doubtful) brushing it off like it didn't matter is quite childish. Wasn't me, I didn't know about it, nobody told me.
The rules stated no props and documents were allowed, pen and paper was.
So what's the big deal about a few notes?
He had an hour and a half to write a few dot points or notes before the start of debate.
It's a stupid argument. They both made notes and both looked at them.
It's a huge stretch to say it's cheating. Especially to say it's cheating after the event instead of before.
on 12-08-2013 07:25 PM
Laurie Oakes said Abbott won the debate