Why block Indian flights instead of USA flights ?

Current figures:
USA 98k cases per million 1764 deaths per million.
India 13k cases per million 142 deaths per million.

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Why block Indian flights instead of USA flights ?

You could have simply googled it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-cov...

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@dontmissthese wrote:

You could have simply googled it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-cov...


 

 

OR . . . when you post the quote you could include a link for all to use rather than relying on members to find it for themselves.  Not all those who visit here are as tech savvy as others and would struggle to find the origin of the quote.

 

Also, what part of your post intro are we supposed to use in a google search?

 

My initial overall comparison was flawed by being just that ...'overall'.

Current figures ( prior 7 days ) do shout 'no flights from India'.

Interestingly the USA figure is probably overstated inasmuch as Covid

gets more government money thrown at it than Flu.
"Hospital administrators might well . . . . . 

 

Nothing there to direct me to “usatoday” or the headline for the article.

 

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I had already found the source and was asking more for the benefit of others than myself.

The method I used was a google ‘phrase’ search.  I looked for a group of words that would not be likely to be repeated as a phrase on many sites.  Put the phrase between quotation marks and google will search for web pages where the exact phrase is present . . . as shown in the screengrab below.

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This is a method I used as a teacher when checking student work for plagiarism.  I would simply look for two or more words that were in the student assessment task that would not be in a phrase on many sites.  I once photocopied a student task and highlighted the parts I was able to find where word-for-word passages were copied.  I used different coloured highlighters for each site I found and the task lit up like a Christmas tree.  The student had included several sites in a bibliography, but none of the ones that he had copied from.  When I handed the task back with a mark of zero he questioned me . . . so I pulled out the photocopied task and printed copies of the pages he stole from and he asked “how did you know to do that?”.  Students thought teachers who didn’t grow up with the internet were not tech savvy.

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however, ask me to download a song on iTunes and I am screwed!

 

 

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Why block India located citizen repatriation ? Consider the plight of Victoria , now should be obvious why

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Apology for creating a point of confusion.

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no harm done.

 

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The current wave of coronavirus in India is seriously infecting children for the first time

 

https://youtu.be/eQ9styDz5mk

 

So additional risk factors to consider

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Is obvious now that any repatriated people from India should never be quarantined in a hotel

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@rogespeed wrote:

The current wave of coronavirus in India is seriously infecting children for the first time

 

https://youtu.be/eQ9styDz5mk

 

So additional risk factors to consider

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Is obvious now that any repatriated people from India should never be quarantined in a hotel


Well, not the sort of hotels that have been used. There need to be dedicated quarantine facilities built, at least in Vic & NSW.

The reason India is more of a worry to us is not just that they have the new variant of covid, it is because we (at least here in Vic) have a massive Indian population. Virtually no Americans, so they aren't a big worry.  In practical terms, we face problems with large numbers of dual citizenship Indians electing to return but no problem from USA.

 

The other factor is that USA has now had 50% of its population vaccinated. It's moving ahead quickly with the program. Not so India. Or Australia, for that matter.

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I think is vacation time in the States and so the vaccine effectiveness outside of trials can be evaluated 

 

We now have incident of "delta" variant - at this time no link to any quarantine detainees - i would suggest koalas are responsible  

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Just because they haven't found a link doesn't mean there isn't one. There has to be.

 

I was just rereading some posts on this thread and noticed the question of racism came up.

 

To me, it doesn't come down to racism, it should come down to how likely is it a returnee will be infected with covid and carry risk into this country? 

And how do we balance the wants of people overseas with our responsibility to keep the community here safe?

In fact, you could argue it is criminal to put the wants of a few thousand people (who chose to live/work overseas and who on the whole have places they are staying; they are not tourists) above everyone else in our country.

 

The solution is easy. Returnees need to be vaccinated before returning and sometimes we might need to pause returns from very high risk countries. Not based on race, based on risk.

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under reporting . . . who’d have thought?

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-10/india-bihar-unreported-deaths-review-covid-19-toll/100206888

 

 

The health department in Bihar, one of India's poorest states, revised its total COVID-19-related death toll to more than 9,429 from about 5,424 on Wednesday.

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