on 29-03-2015 09:05 PM
SUPPORTERS of gay rights have united in outrage after the US state of Indiana adopted a law critics say would allow businesses to deny service to homosexuals on religious grounds.
“It is vitally important to protect religious freedom in Indiana,” the Republican governor said in a statement.
My God, this makes me so mad
on 30-03-2015 09:19 AM
Do gay people use different dollars? I never knew that
on 30-03-2015 09:19 AM
@secondhand-wonderland wrote:Around the state, stickers touting “This business serves everyone” have been appearing in many businesses’ windows,
I really cant imagine serious business people getting behind this law. A sale is a sale in business, who in their right mind is going to turn away customers? I have never met a business person who would turn customers away. I personally think the average person whether religious or not really doesn't give a c*ap what way you swing, (especially if you are a potential customer) Most people treat people the way they expect to be treated, especially in business.
Sadly, it IS happening - but only in 'Murica's bible belt, where the fundamentalist christians prevail!
Yes, the boldening IS deliberate!
30-03-2015 09:21 AM - edited 30-03-2015 09:22 AM
@lurker172602 wrote:Do gay people use different dollars? I never knew that
He he! Apparently, the gay germs on their cash is highly contagious!
Sigh. Only in 'Murica!
on 30-03-2015 09:20 PM
@secondhand-wonderland wrote:Around the state, stickers touting “This business serves everyone” have been appearing in many businesses’ windows,
I really cant imagine serious business people getting behind this law. A sale is a sale in business, who in their right mind is going to turn away customers? I have never met a business person who would turn customers away. I personally think the average person whether religious or not really doesn't give a c*ap what way you swing, (especially if you are a potential customer) Most people treat people the way they expect to be treated, especially in business.
This is America, there're a proportion of the religious that actually believe in their religion. If you truly believe in the word of God, then you have no choice but to follow it. You can pay them as much money as you want, they still wouldn't change their mind.
31-03-2015 12:34 AM - edited 31-03-2015 12:36 AM
It's highly unlikely that the law discrimating against Gay patrons is going to stand, so the next time you Aus-alins come to " Murica" you can feel free to chow down anywhere you want without worrying that others can't do the same.
Personally, I think owners of private establishments should be able to run their businesses the way they want to. They'll face the consequences soon enough when all the protesters block their doors and even straight people boycott their establishments in support of their Gay friends and relatives.
Mind you, I think such discrimination is very wrong--especially in 2015--but it hardly compares with what's happening to homosexuals in some fundamentalist Muslim countries.
And, frankly, I know you all think you're living in Shangri-la, but I find it hard to believe that Aus-rala doesn't have it's own pockets of discrimatory practices--despite the laws prohibiting them. Prejudice and narrow-mindedness is everywhere in the world and doesn't always have something to do with religion. I'm sure the Aboriginals can testify to that.
on 31-03-2015 02:05 AM
This is America, there're a proportion of the religious that actually believe in their religion. If you truly believe in the word of God, then you have no choice but to follow it. You can pay them as much money as you want, they still wouldn't change their mind.
Perhaps 1% of them insist on adheringt o the word of God, but even then they pick and choose which Commandments to obey. The rest simply use religion to discriminate against those they cosider inferior .If the Old Testament considers homosexuality an "abomination" it also cosiders stoning an apt punishment for adultery, yet, you don't see the good burghers lining up to stone their daughters who come home with a bun in the oven.
on 31-03-2015 05:05 AM
Keep in mind that this new law is potentially abbout much more than denying service to homosexuals. It can be applied to blacks, people of other religions, atheists - whatever offends a business owners' "deeply held religious beliefs." It's a freakin' Pandora's box.
I can't wait to see what happens the first time a Muslim business owner denies service to Christians. Suddenly, like magic, "deeply held religious beliefs" will become "discrimination", or even "persecution".
Personally, I think all business owners who plan to refuse business to gays should be required by law to post a sign over the business entryway clearly stating that they will not serve gays. If they have the right to deny service to gays, then surely gays should have the right to be informed of that before even walking through the door. And of course, a nice side-effect of requiring businesses to post signs is that once they do that, the very next sign we will see on their door will read "Going out of business".
on 31-03-2015 08:21 AM
on 31-03-2015 08:33 AM
@artfulcreations4all wrote:
And, frankly, I know you all think you're living in Shangri-la, but I find it hard to believe that Aus-rala doesn't have it's own pockets of discrimatory practices--despite the laws prohibiting them. Prejudice and narrow-mindedness is everywhere in the world and doesn't always have something to do with religion. I'm sure the Aboriginals can testify to that.
No, we do not, and we have plenty of racist and/or homophobic people, but thankfully we as yet do not have laws to support these people.
@artfulcreations4all wrote:
Mind you, I think such discrimination is very wrong--especially in 2015--but it hardly compares with what's happening to homosexuals in some fundamentalist Muslim countries.
??? What does that have to do with anything? Just because somebody is worse is not a justification. It's like saying: "yes, I punched him, but lot of people punch people more than I did".
on 31-03-2015 08:55 AM
@the_bob_delusion wrote:
@secondhand-wonderland wrote:Around the state, stickers touting “This business serves everyone” have been appearing in many businesses’ windows,
I really cant imagine serious business people getting behind this law. A sale is a sale in business, who in their right mind is going to turn away customers? I have never met a business person who would turn customers away. I personally think the average person whether religious or not really doesn't give a c*ap what way you swing, (especially if you are a potential customer) Most people treat people the way they expect to be treated, especially in business.
This is America, there're a proportion of the religious that actually believe in their religion. If you truly believe in the word of God, then you have no choice but to follow it. You can pay them as much money as you want, they still wouldn't change their mind.
Apart from some men and women in suits and robes, where are all the business owners "saying" that they dont want to serve gay patrons? Do you have any business names that you've heard of? Because I'd like to hear the reasons as to why they feel the need to lobby for such laws? Is that how this has come about? Did a whole heap of businesses rally together and petition govt?