Why would any young person do this?

[i-need-a-martini]

Work for Abbotts "Green Army" for $10 an hour when the minimum youth wage in Australia is around $18 an hour?

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbotts-green-army-ready-to-march-but-its-not-...

[nero_bolt]

OOHh well stay unemployed and on welfare  then.... its easy...

As its voluntary any of the welfare hand out mentality won’t take this up, others with get up and go will.

NO one is forcing people to do this but people that want to have a go will do this....  The welfare mentality wont and they will continue to complain

[fourandsixpants]

This is not job creation.

This is slave labour.

No DUTY OF CARE.

....actually I am sure that prisoners have better conditions than this....and mandatory conditions too. LOL!

[fourandsixpants]

In fact I do hope that ALL parents and advocates of our young people strongly advise them NOT to 'volunteer' for this carp.

[bella_again]

Exactly there is a hidden agenda here to lower wages.  This is disgraceful.  So if a person is injured on the job there is no coverage for them under work cover, there is no comeback if they are bullied or treated unfairly and they get to exempt them from work and safety laws so they are also at risk.

Nothing about that is right, no matter what argument anyone puts across, its not right pure and simple.  If the government were to ensure these workers are covered by work cover, have super and have to abide by unfair dismissal and health and safety rules fine but they are not. I hope no one agrees to work under those kinds of conditions. 

government has moved to pass a Bill that will exclude the workers from coverage under the Fair Work Act, meaning they’re not entitled to the usual rights to annual leave, public holidays, or protection from being unfairly dismissed or discriminated against in the workplace.

It also looks like they might fall through the cracks of our workplace health and safety scheme, because guess what? The government is exempting them from Australia’s work health and safety laws too!

If this is truly a genuine training opportunity for Australia’s young, then why not put them on a proper traineeship with the possibility of a real job at the end of it?

[fourandsixpants]

Yes Bell_again.....disgraceful. No DUTY OF CARE.

There is a hidden agenda here to lower wages.

[cherry*135]

Supervisors for those tyoe of Govt work schemes can be not up to the job also. Which means the participants suffer.

[fourandsixpants]

eh? specifically pls? as your sentence does not quite make sense 

[cherry*135]

Where are they going to get lots of trained work scheme supervisors from?
If the supervisors don't do a good job of setting the tasks and supervising their team fairly to carry out the work, the participants aren't going to get much out of it.
Bad supervisor = bad experience for those under them.

[kabarine]

AM if this is there same type of Green Army, I was referring to earier, then it was very well managed my daughter learned heaps in the six months she was there. NO the pay isn't high but surely it better to be outside doing something useful in/for the community than do nothing and getting no where.

Why be so negative about something when you haven't tried it 😞

[boris1gary]

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@nero_wulf wrote:

OOHh well stay unemployed and on welfare  then.... its easy...

As its voluntary any of the welfare hand out mentality won’t take this up, others with get up and go will.

NO one is forcing people to do this but people that want to have a go will do this....  The welfare mentality wont and they will continue to complain

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dear dear, nothing like a few untruths to push a slogan, never mind but will there be an apology?

http://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2014/aug/04/andrew-forrest-is-wrong-welfare-spending...

Andrew Forrest is wrong: welfare spending is not out of control

Welfare’s share of total spending has fallen over the past decade and Australians are less welfare-dependent, not more

But welfare funding as a percentage of government expenditure has actually fallen over the past decade. And the overwhelming reason social security spending is expected to grow at all over the next four years (and beyond) is because of the increase in the age pension. Take those away and social security spending as a proportion of the total government expenditure remains quite flat: