Will you download the app?

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Interesting developments:

The battle against coronavirus is going hi-tech, with Australians to be asked to download a phone app that will monitor their movements — but only with their express permission.

The Federal Government believes restrictions on the community could be eased in the months ahead if there's more testing, greater surveillance of those infected by the coronavirus and much faster tracing of those they've had contact with.

It is developing a mobile phone app with the private sector to help monitor Australians' daily interactions.

The ABC understands the app will be ready in a fortnight but the Government believes it would need at least 40 per cent of Australians to voluntarily sign up for it to be effective.

The app would be opt-in only and not mandatory.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-14/coronavirus-app-government-wants-australians-to-download/1214...

This app will make contact tracing easier as it will enable authorities to contact people via their phones if they have come in contact with someone who subsequently tests positive.

Personally, count me in.  I can always delete the app once this pandemic has settled.  If I was to become really concerned I’d simply get a new phone, new number, new sim! OR, simply turn off Bluetooth 

[joz*garage · Accepted solution]

Over 2 million aussies downloaded the app, i heard, so far

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:
I won't be downloading the app.

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But Icy even if it did track you but assuming you're right ........

if you lead a pretty ordinary and legal life why would it matter?

If they started to track me they would be asleep within 2 minute I'm so legal, and boring.  .       

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I recently saw 2 ordinary blokes riding their bicycles along the road being pulked over by the police and booked.

Loss of liberty is very hard to win, and we are surrendering it like sheep. 

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Rather a generalised report, weren't they wearing helmets? riding side by side breaking road rules and not practising safe distancing?

And what's that got to do with this phone app?

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maybe they were pedalling drugs!

[icyfroth]

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:
I won't be downloading the app.

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But Icy even if it did track you but assuming you're right ........

if you lead a pretty ordinary and legal life why would it matter?

If they started to track me they would be asleep within 2 minute I'm so legal, and boring.  .       

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I recently saw 2 ordinary blokes riding their bicycles along the road being pulked over by the police and booked.

Loss of liberty is very hard to win, and we are surrendering it like sheep. 

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Rather a generalised report, weren't they wearing helmets?

Yes they were wearing helmets

riding side by side breaking road rules and not practising safe distancing?

Perhaps. But it's pretty awful if you can't go about your normal exercis, riding side by side with your mate on a Saturday morning  without getting in trouble with the law.

The word "Gestapo" comes to mind. Or "Gulag".

And what's that got to do with this phone app?

Not so much the phone app, but why download it when it's so easy to track you anyway? And if Covid is expected to be on a downhill curve anyway?

The phone app is just another nail in the coffin of the freedom of speech and movement we have enjoyed in this country.

Baby steps, so far, but once Covid has lost it's hold, what will be next?

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[domino-710]

 I suppose - when the time comes - the necessary 4 klms of paper- will be done - for a pension.

Yes. ??

[bright.ton42 · Accepted solution]

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@rogespeed wrote:

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The other issue is that one does not get indicated in being interrogated by another phone. Normally bluetooth connections is a owner initiated task with full owner knowledge. should there be an optional indicator ? 

Also need bluetooth to be active - how does this expose one to being hacked ? Is there a notification regarding security recommendations ?

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As far as I know it wont work without Bluetooth enabled.  So I only enable Bluetooth when I  know I will be in contact with ppl for 15 mins or more, then disable it otherwise. 

[joz*garage]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:
I won't be downloading the app.

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But Icy even if it did track you but assuming you're right ........

if you lead a pretty ordinary and legal life why would it matter?

If they started to track me they would be asleep within 2 minute I'm so legal, and boring.  .       

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I recently saw 2 ordinary blokes riding their bicycles along the road being pulked over by the police and booked.

Loss of liberty is very hard to win, and we are surrendering it like sheep. 

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Rather a generalised report, weren't they wearing helmets?

Yes they were wearing helmets

riding side by side breaking road rules and not practising safe distancing?

Perhaps. But it's pretty awful if you can't go about your normal exercis, riding side by side with your mate on a Saturday morning  without getting in trouble with the law.

The word "Gestapo" comes to mind. Or "Gulag".

As a motorist, one annoying thing is to wait for a break in traffic to over take these morons riding bikes side by side

And what's that got to do with this phone app?

Not so much the phone app, but why download it when it's so easy to track you anyway? And if Covid is expected to be on a downhill curve anyway?

The phone app is just another nail in the coffin of the freedom of speech and movement we have enjoyed in this country.

Baby steps, so far, but once Covid has lost it's hold, what will be next?

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I see you've got the wrong idea about this app, & it's your "choice" to download it or not.

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[icyfroth]

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:
I won't be downloading the app.

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But Icy even if it did track you but assuming you're right ........

if you lead a pretty ordinary and legal life why would it matter?

If they started to track me they would be asleep within 2 minute I'm so legal, and boring.  .       

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I recently saw 2 ordinary blokes riding their bicycles along the road being pulked over by the police and booked.

Loss of liberty is very hard to win, and we are surrendering it like sheep. 

---

Rather a generalised report, weren't they wearing helmets?

Yes they were wearing helmets

riding side by side breaking road rules and not practising safe distancing?

Perhaps. But it's pretty awful if you can't go about your normal exercis, riding side by side with your mate on a Saturday morning  without getting in trouble with the law.

The word "Gestapo" comes to mind. Or "Gulag".

As a motorist, one annoying thing is to wait for a break in traffic to over take these morons riding bikes side by side

And what's that got to do with this phone app?

Not so much the phone app, but why download it when it's so easy to track you anyway? And if Covid is expected to be on a downhill curve anyway?

The phone app is just another nail in the coffin of the freedom of speech and movement we have enjoyed in this country.

Baby steps, so far, but once Covid has lost it's hold, what will be next?

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I see you've got the wrong idea about this app, & it's your "choice" to download it or not.

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I don't think I have the "wrong idea, anymore than you have.

I agreee it's you're "choice", though...

at this stage,anyhow...

[11dustyattic]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

If the government wants me to download the app then they can give me a phone that will allow me to do it.

It will then sit on the bedside table until I take it on my 3-4 monthly trips to the doctor.

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Hahaha 

[11dustyattic]

To answer the op's question, nope. They have way more information about me than they should. I also don't enable GPS or put a location in my phone. Never have, never will. 

The reality is this is an underhanded act aimed at the sheep mentality, to have access to every living waking moment of our lives. The government/tax department/centrelink/my gov/access to bank information (if you don't believe that you're deluded, not directed at anyone in particular)/police (access to phone records, any records........

Do you see where I'm going with this? Why not just invite them over for my next date. They can sit and watch, that is if I'm not already being recorded

[joz*garage]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@joz*garage wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:
I won't be downloading the app.

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But Icy even if it did track you but assuming you're right ........

if you lead a pretty ordinary and legal life why would it matter?

If they started to track me they would be asleep within 2 minute I'm so legal, and boring.  .       

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I recently saw 2 ordinary blokes riding their bicycles along the road being pulked over by the police and booked.

Loss of liberty is very hard to win, and we are surrendering it like sheep. 

---

Rather a generalised report, weren't they wearing helmets?

Yes they were wearing helmets

riding side by side breaking road rules and not practising safe distancing?

Perhaps. But it's pretty awful if you can't go about your normal exercis, riding side by side with your mate on a Saturday morning  without getting in trouble with the law.

The word "Gestapo" comes to mind. Or "Gulag".

As a motorist, one annoying thing is to wait for a break in traffic to over take these morons riding bikes side by side

And what's that got to do with this phone app?

Not so much the phone app, but why download it when it's so easy to track you anyway? And if Covid is expected to be on a downhill curve anyway?

The phone app is just another nail in the coffin of the freedom of speech and movement we have enjoyed in this country.

Baby steps, so far, but once Covid has lost it's hold, what will be next?

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I see you've got the wrong idea about this app, & it's your "choice" to download it or not.

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I don't think I have the "wrong idea, anymore than you have.

I agreee it's you're "choice", though...

at this stage,anyhow...

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You've had concerns about retrictions. yes - no, no - yes? the more folks download the app the more restrictions will be lifted 😛