Worst Goverment In Australia's Recent History

[tall_bearded]

For some strange reason I'm finding it difficult to post comments on some political threads so I decided to start my own.

 I would have to say the worst government in recent history would have to be the one lead by Gough, with those lead by Howard and Abbott being a close second.

Compared to those three, the Rudd and Gillard Government Punch and Judy show doesn’t rate mention.

[icyfroth]

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@boris1gary wrote:

her, her, her.....mmmmmmmmmm - most of that post (not all) was manufactured by the murdoch press , lots of spin and little reality. Regardless of the hatred whipped up against Ms Gillard and Mr Rudd, the things that really matter - welfare, the economy - just to mention 2 fared very well in comparison with the current mob of fools.

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welfare, the economy - spending up big leaving us with a huge debt to pay off now thank you very much

oh and did I mention labors failure to address the border security issue?

[freakiness]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@freakiness wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Would have to be the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd circus hands down.

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Why?

What did they do to earn such contempt?

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@freakiness wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Would have to be the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd circus hands down.

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Why?

What did they do to earn such contempt?

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ok where to start?

Ms Gillard backstabbing her boss for the job

Her handling of the Slipper affair

Her handling of the Thomson affair

@her involvement in the union slush fund with Bruce Wilson @ Slater & Gordon

her painting a target on Australia by allowing a US marine installation at Darwin (aimed at China one of our biggest trading partners)

her gender wars

never mind the carbon tax lie

creating such a shambles of the party that she had to be replaced by none other than previous reject Mr Rudd....what the?

Mr Rudd throwing benefits around like lollies in a transparent and pathetic attempt to lure the Aus voter back to Labor.

Totally put me off the Labor party.

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In other words lets just blame everything on Gillard.  She and everyone else should know being PM is a man's job.

Yep, the gender wars must have been her fault. By virtue of being a woman she must have deserved to be called barren, to be asked when Tim would make an honest woman of her,  to be likened to a cow,  to be called BB's biitch,  asked why she won't lie down and die.  DId you hear the one about the women?  These women are destroying the joint, how dare they trespass in man's domain and take on powerful positions.

All those examples are straight out of the mouths of Bolt, Ackerman and co.  Every single one of them.

How was her treatment of Slipper worse than the LNP's treatment of Slipper?  Was she at his wedding?  Did she pre-select him all those times?

How did she backstab Rudd on her own?  The rest of the party have nothing to do with it?

What was that carbon tax lie again?  Did she not say there would be a price on carbon?

[lakeland27]

the border issue is overstated. liberal PM fraser let them in and its a better place for that.

[izabsmiling]

what has happened to spending since the Coalition came into power ? ....see fact check.

where is the debt ceiling ?

Why have we wiped 74million or so debt from Indonesia's account (from the 80/90's) recently ? 

What border 'security issue' ?  do you mean the Asylum seeker crisis created to attract the vote of Australians ?

Are we still signaturories of the UN refugee Convention ?

If so our Gov't might be in trouble..High Court challenge taking place now.

[tall_bearded]

Just so you understand what I mean.  During the Iraq war Labor made it plan opposition to the war did not mean opposition to the personel fighting it.

During the Vietnam War Gough’s attitude was opposition to one meant opposition to the other. That they were on in the same.  So whilst he fought the political fight he gave free reign for his supporters to do the rest.

That is, Gough didn’t send the hate mail to the families of those killed or wounded in action but his supporters did.  Nor did he tell their supporters to hurl abuse or throw buckets of red paint (or worse) at service personnel who dared to wear their uniform in public. Nor did he tell the wharfie to stop loading the supply ships…So what he did do?  He saw his supporters were doing and did nothing to stop them.

So the difference appears to be, you are looking at it from a historical perspective.  I lived through it.

[lakeland27]

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@tall_bearded wrote:

Just so you understand what I mean.  During the Iraq war Labor made it plan opposition to the war did not mean opposition to the personel fighting it.

During the Vietnam War Gough’s attitude was opposition to one meant opposition to the other. That they were on in the same.  So whilst he fought the political fight he gave free reign for his supporters to do the rest.

That is, Gough didn’t send the hate mail to the families of those killed or wounded in action but his supporters did.  Nor did he tell their supporters to hurl abuse or throw buckets of red paint (or worse) at service personnel who dared to wear their uniform in public. Nor did he tell the wharfie to stop loading the supply ships…So what he did do?  He saw his supporters were doing and did nothing to stop them.

So the difference appears to be, you are looking at it from a historical perspective.  I lived through it.

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 i have friends with the same experience who don't blame whitlam for those hotheads. i guess its a matter of perspective.

to oppose the war was correct in my book, to take action against individual servicemen was not and i doubt he encouraged it at all.

[tall_bearded]

Oh and as for Vietnam refugees, different circumstance.

We entered a war on some pretty flawed ideological grounds, a war which we had no business getting involved in, and in doing so helped to divide a nation.  That is here was no domino effect, nor any prospect of their ever being one.  Yes Uncle Ho was a communist, but he was foremost a nationalist.  That is he didn’t kick the French just so he could hand it over to the Chinese or the Russians, which both found out to their detriment soon after 75.  Therefore, when, in 1975, the country was reunified, the refugees created were partly of our own doing.  Therefore had a moral obligation to at least in part remedy the harm we had do.

But then I’m not anti-refugee.  I simply have a different view as to some here to how refuges should be selected for resettlement purposes.  But then this is a democracy and as such I am entitled to my view.

Oh and by the way, just for accuracy sake Frazier is a born again refugee advocate because whilst PM he was doing his level best stop the boats.

[lakeland27]

our presence in Afghanistan and the blind - eye we turn to the genocide in Sri Lanka  also puts a responsibility on us to take refugees from both. to me the worst moment in governance in the last 30 odd years is the tampa , that was low and loathsome as well as empowering the racists among us.. brandis is getting mighty close now in second place to howard, he needs removing as a priority.

[izabsmiling]

^^^ Asylum seeker crisis 'created' to attract the vote of 'particular'  Australians .Not ALL of us finding such things attactive...Thankfully

[tall_bearded]

In my book, is you know something to be wrong and stand aside and do nothing, you as guilty as those who do the wrong. Gough may not have agreed with what was happening and the way it was being done, but if that he case, all that does is demonstrate the absence of a backbone.

But then a lack of a backbone seems to be the hallmark of his governance.

I mean what PM send unarmed service personnel into a hot LZ.  What kind of PM turns his back on a long-time friend and tells another country it’s OK to invade.  What kind of PM turn his back on the Government sanctioned murder or Australian citizens…