on 15-08-2013 06:24 PM
on 15-08-2013 09:32 PM
So it's a bit like saying the Minister for Roads, strictly as a matter of law, is responsible for the death of a person in a road accident on a road he is responsible for.
But of course the reality is that he is not.
on 16-08-2013 07:53 AM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@twinkles**stars wrote:If I believed someone was honest and being wrongly convicted then yes I would give a reference. Unless there was proof the person was unworthy of one
I suspect that if you had ambitions as great as Tony Abbott, then you would be very cautious about everything/everyone that you endores because you know it will back at you.
I thik it another example of poor judgement on his part.
How do any of us know what Mr Abbotts ambitions were back then.... it's not like it was given in the last few years.
I have written references in the past for people I no longer have any contact with. Past employees etc. Past employers have done the same for me.
Some years ago I had to make a statement outlining my involvement with a suspected thief. I had to be honest...had found him to be trustworthy, never had had any concerns, the length of time I had known him, how he had been present in my home etc.
Years later he was found to be a drug dealer who later hung himself 😞
We go on what we know at the time.
on 16-08-2013 08:21 AM
Bringing up the Heiner affair does not suit. The one liners lobbed in are designed only to stir the pot, not any thinking person who knows their history would bother with this tripe.
on 16-08-2013 09:01 AM
on 16-08-2013 11:36 AM
I presume you like history DY, but not the law.
A 1997 case dragged up in March 2013, which after the appeal resulted in: " the District Court Judge Joe Phelan said Fr Nestor was of good character but should have been "more prudent".
Kick him off the bench DY?
Where within your link DY does it confirm your "defamatory" allegation that Nestor was a proved paedophile?
Next you will be mentioning, yet again, that Abbott is a (alleged) wall abuser, or possibly that he kicked sand in the face of someone at prep school.
Hang on, that would qualify him to write here, or be a MP.
Perhaps a thread titled "Early Days of our Tony's Lives" would appeal to the history buff!
on 16-08-2013 11:45 AM
on 16-08-2013 11:58 AM
@twinkles**stars wrote:
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@twinkles**stars wrote:If I believed someone was honest and being wrongly convicted then yes I would give a reference. Unless there was proof the person was unworthy of one
I suspect that if you had ambitions as great as Tony Abbott, then you would be very cautious about everything/everyone that you endores because you know it will back at you.
I thik it another example of poor judgement on his part.
How do any of us know what Mr Abbotts ambitions were back then.... it's not like it was given in the last few years.
I have written references in the past for people I no longer have any contact with. Past employees etc. Past employers have done the same for me.
Some years ago I had to make a statement outlining my involvement with a suspected thief. I had to be honest...had found him to be trustworthy, never had had any concerns, the length of time I had known him, how he had been present in my home etc.
Years later he was found to be a drug dealer who later hung himself 😞
We go on what we know at the time.
On the election of the Howard Government in 1996 he was appointed Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Employment, Education, Training and Youth Affairs. In this role, he was responsible for the establishment of the Green Corps program for young people.
on 16-08-2013 12:26 PM
@donnashuggy wrote:Well Tony Abbott did, he defended a priest that did just that.
The funny thing is that Abbott keeps saying Rudd has poor judgement.
What do others think?
Yes.
If I had experienced this person as "beacon of humanity" and had no experience of such persons wrongdoing, and had no doubt that charges against said person were unsubstantiated.
Without hesitation.
on 17-08-2013 08:45 PM
oh this is not a good look, is it