on 13-10-2020 09:33 AM
its not hard to see why govts are loath to start inquiries or build a true ICAC
history shows often its those who start them who suffer the most
Chris Eccles, Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews' top bureaucrat, resigns after hotel quarantine inquiry requests phone records
dans got himself in a mess, no amount of hand washing will get the dirt off his hands
in NSW gladys is in a similar situation
the spin doctors will be earning their keep these next days/weeks
on 19-10-2020 01:07 PM
"After an early mis step with the Ruby Princess".
LOL, her "early mis step" more than likely was responsible for the spread of Covid-19 across the country and led to the outbreak in Victoria. Don't you mean 'her early mismanagement, incompetence and failed leadership'? But of course she's Liberal and Morrison's blue eyed girl so let's turn a blind eye. I wonder how many people would still be alive today if the Ruby Princess situation had been managed by Daniel Andrews?
on 19-10-2020 01:30 PM
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:"After an early mis step with the Ruby Princess".
LOL, her "early mis step" more than likely was responsible for the spread of Covid-19 across the country and led to the outbreak in Victoria. Don't you mean 'her early mismanagement, incompetence and failed leadership'? But of course she's Liberal and Morrison's blue eyed girl so let's turn a blind eye. I wonder how many people would still be alive today if the Ruby Princess situation had been managed by Daniel Andrews?
This post deserves the coveted five-laughy-face award!
on 19-10-2020 01:35 PM
@icyfroth wrote:
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:"After an early mis step with the Ruby Princess".
LOL, her "early mis step" more than likely was responsible for the spread of Covid-19 across the country and led to the outbreak in Victoria. Don't you mean 'her early mismanagement, incompetence and failed leadership'? But of course she's Liberal and Morrison's blue eyed girl so let's turn a blind eye. I wonder how many people would still be alive today if the Ruby Princess situation had been managed by Daniel Andrews?
This post deserves the coveted five-laughy-face award!
I don't think dead Australians due to gross incompetence is a laughing matter.
on 19-10-2020 02:02 PM
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:"After an early mis step with the Ruby Princess".
LOL, her "early mis step" more than likely was responsible for the spread of Covid-19 across the country and led to the outbreak in Victoria. Don't you mean 'her early mismanagement, incompetence and failed leadership'? But of course she's Liberal and Morrison's blue eyed girl so let's turn a blind eye. I wonder how many people would still be alive today if the Ruby Princess situation had been managed by Daniel Andrews?
This post deserves the coveted five-laughy-face award!
I don't think dead Australians due to gross incompetence is a laughing matter.
If you are genuine, then lets hear your condemnation of Dan Andrews gross incompetence then. And while you are at it, lets hear your views on his colleagues accusing him of outright lying to the commission to try to cover his sorry backside. Not only incompetent, but a lying coward too, according to those who have worked most closely with him..
on 19-10-2020 02:24 PM
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:"After an early mis step with the Ruby Princess".
LOL, her "early mis step" more than likely was responsible for the spread of Covid-19 across the country and led to the outbreak in Victoria. Don't you mean 'her early mismanagement, incompetence and failed leadership'? But of course she's Liberal and Morrison's blue eyed girl so let's turn a blind eye. I wonder how many people would still be alive today if the Ruby Princess situation had been managed by Daniel Andrews?
This post deserves the coveted five-laughy-face award!
I don't think dead Australians due to gross incompetence is a laughing matter.
I don't think so either. What's laughable is your attempt to pin blame for Victoria's COVID death toll on to the NSW Premier.
"Hotel quarantine is the suspected source of Victoria's second wave of COVID-19, which has seen thousands of new cases and hundreds of people die. An inquiry into the program's potential failings started hearing this week."
"It also suggests a sloppiness on the part of the Victorian Government, not having insisted on seeing written consents and agreements to be bound by the agreement by the subcontractor prior to consenting to the subcontract being entered into," he said.
on 19-10-2020 02:25 PM
@chameleon54 wrote:
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:"After an early mis step with the Ruby Princess".
LOL, her "early mis step" more than likely was responsible for the spread of Covid-19 across the country and led to the outbreak in Victoria. Don't you mean 'her early mismanagement, incompetence and failed leadership'? But of course she's Liberal and Morrison's blue eyed girl so let's turn a blind eye. I wonder how many people would still be alive today if the Ruby Princess situation had been managed by Daniel Andrews?
This post deserves the coveted five-laughy-face award!
I don't think dead Australians due to gross incompetence is a laughing matter.
If you are genuine, then lets hear your condemnation of Dan Andrews gross incompetence then. And while you are at it, lets hear your views on his colleagues accusing him of outright lying to the commission to try to cover his sorry backside. Not only incompetent, but a lying coward too, according to those who have worked most closely with him..
WHY ????
I suppose it goes without saying - you could have handled the State of Victoria - effortlessly. lol
on 19-10-2020 02:29 PM
@chameleon54 wrote:If you are genuine, then lets hear your condemnation of Dan Andrews gross incompetence then. And while you are at it, lets hear your views on his colleagues accusing him of outright lying to the commission to try to cover his sorry backside. Not only incompetent, but a lying coward too, according to those who have worked most closely with him..
I think you've done a fine job of condemning Daniel Andrews while dismissing Berejiklian's incompetent management of the Ruby Princess debacle as "an early mis step". My views on Daniel Andrews are my business, but I will make comment on hypocrisy.
19-10-2020 02:32 PM - edited 19-10-2020 02:36 PM
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:"After an early mis step with the Ruby Princess".
LOL, her "early mis step" more than likely was responsible for the spread of Covid-19 across the country and led to the outbreak in Victoria. Don't you mean 'her early mismanagement, incompetence and failed leadership'? But of course she's Liberal and Morrison's blue eyed girl so let's turn a blind eye. I wonder how many people would still be alive today if the Ruby Princess situation had been managed by Daniel Andrews?
Two seperate issues I think you will find. The problem with the Ruby Princess was that the passengers where allowed to enter the country without quarantine. Yes a major stuff up and it did lead to an initial outbreak of COVID which was later traced and quelled.
The "second wave" Victorian outbreak occurred due to international arrivals being quarantined in Melbourne hotel. It appears Dan Andrews oversaw the security arrangements in which he rejected an offer of police and army support, instead giving the work to a unionised private security company. This company then sub- contracted the job to private individuals through facebook and similar social media posts.( very professional .... ) The guards received virtually no training or PPE and it is alleged even had intimate relations with quarantining arrivals. Genomic testing has shown the Victorian outbreak can be traced back to this hotel incident rather than the Ruby Prioncess. It is during the Victorian second wave which Andrews is directly responsible for that the vast majority of Victorian deaths occurred..
All of this is on the public record and well understood by most people. I,m not sure why you are confused about it.
on 19-10-2020 02:42 PM
@chameleon54 wrote:
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:"After an early mis step with the Ruby Princess".
LOL, her "early mis step" more than likely was responsible for the spread of Covid-19 across the country and led to the outbreak in Victoria. Don't you mean 'her early mismanagement, incompetence and failed leadership'? But of course she's Liberal and Morrison's blue eyed girl so let's turn a blind eye. I wonder how many people would still be alive today if the Ruby Princess situation had been managed by Daniel Andrews?
This post deserves the coveted five-laughy-face award!
I don't think dead Australians due to gross incompetence is a laughing matter.
If you are genuine, then lets hear your condemnation of Dan Andrews gross incompetence then. And while you are at it, lets hear your views on his colleagues accusing him of outright lying to the commission to try to cover his sorry backside. Not only incompetent, but a lying coward too, according to those who have worked most closely with him..
Is there a link from those work collegues regarding your highlighted claim?
I would be interested to read who they are and what was reported.
on 19-10-2020 02:49 PM
Post no. 12 this thread there are a couple.