on 18-04-2015 11:58 AM
on 23-04-2015 11:45 AM
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@bright.ton42 wrote:You have a very simplistic view of life. Not simple .... simplistic.
Fix Palestine? As though it is that easy. We westerners can't begin to understand the complexities and history that belongs to these people. Easy too to sit in an armchair and blame Abbott and our govt, which is just laughable.
Every single of our governments has been pro Israel. Therefor none of us is blaming Abbott for the whole mess, but he is not doing anything to make things better.
Maybe you cannot understand how complex situation gets when country colonised by Britain is handed over to Zionist, who then proceed to liquidate the Palestinian population and confiscating their land, but most people I think do get it that such situation will not improve unless Palestinians get their own state. And in meanwhile ISIS uses Palestinian situation for their propaganda.
Super in me saying fix Palestine in my post in no way means i am pro Palestine or pro Israel for that matter as I do indeed understand the complexities up to a point but as an onlooker only not as a participant which is why I think those not directly connected can't completely understand it all. Yes ISIS probably does use the Palestinian situation for their propoganda but they will use anything to excuse their murderous atrocities.
on 23-04-2015 12:01 PM
Yes ISIS probably does use the Palestinian situation for their propoganda but they will use anything to excuse their murderous atrocities.
And what excuse does israel have for doing the same? This is Psychological warfare and anyone that subscribes to the fear campaign is falling for it, why do you think they want to video it?
on 23-04-2015 12:04 PM
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@bright.ton42 wrote:You have a very simplistic view of life. Not simple .... simplistic.
Fix Palestine? As though it is that easy. We westerners can't begin to understand the complexities and history that belongs to these people. Easy too to sit in an armchair and blame Abbott and our govt, which is just laughable.
Every single of our governments has been pro Israel. Therefor none of us is blaming Abbott for the whole mess, but he is not doing anything to make things better.
Maybe you cannot understand how complex situation gets when country colonised by Britain is handed over to Zionist, who then proceed to liquidate the Palestinian population and confiscating their land, but most people I think do get it that such situation will not improve unless Palestinians get their own state. And in meanwhile ISIS uses Palestinian situation for their propaganda.
Have to agree with above post. It doesn't help the Muslim/Aussie conflict here at home that Mr Abbott has chosen to abstain from af UN vote against continued Israeli settlement activity, or that he calls it "disputed territory" as against "occupied territory".
on 23-04-2015 12:54 PM
@donnashuggy wrote:Yes ISIS probably does use the Palestinian situation for their propoganda but they will use anything to excuse their murderous atrocities.
And what excuse does israel have for doing the same? This is Psychological warfare and anyone that subscribes to the fear campaign is falling for it, why do you think they want to video it?
Yes that's true.
on 23-04-2015 01:05 PM
on 23-04-2015 02:24 PM
@daydream**believer wrote:A very enlightening video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNIaIoZKAE
Whenever I hear an American talking about Moslems, I think they are referring to fabric.