only trump could be so pathetic

[davidc4430]

Donald Trump claims a big win for death of IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-28/al-baghdadi-death-trump-victory-analysis/11644620

to carry on like a schoolboy over the death of anyone is bad enough but there were 3 children killed too.

btw, this is the same government who told us about weapons of mass destruction so i have little faith in it even happening.

as a world leader he leaves so much to be desired....so sad a man i never saw before

[springyzone]

The killing of one of the terrorist leaders probably is a triumph for the US military, if we're honest. Not easy to achieve. These leaders often deliberately surround themselves with civilians, putting those civiliams in danger.

But Trump should absolutely not go tweeting about it. In fact, he'd be a lot better off if he didn't tweet about anything, he doesn't do himself any good.

And it is a really bad idea to go stating, in a pleased sort of tone, that the man died like a dog. Or that IS followers are frightened puppies. It's inflammatory talk. One thing I hate about Islamic State is the way they have beheaded people and gloated over it, even put it on youtube. Gloating puts it into the next level of brutality. Trump should steer clear of putting himself on the same low level.

Personally, I think it would just be enough to report that a terrorist leader was dead, killed by US forces.

[gutterpunkz05]

I seem to recall, (yesterday), ebay members gloating over the death of Ivan Milat

[the_great_she_elephant]

A man with a very short memory, methinks.

Donald Trump

@realDonaldTrump

Obama deserves much less credit for the killing of Bin Laden. The praise goes to our brave military and intelligence officers.

538

4:53 AM - Oct 2, 2012

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/27/all-times-trump-has-refused-give-obama-credit-bin...

[tasfleur]

It's not the same situation and "gloating" is subjective.

To put it bluntly, I am delighted Ivan Milat is dead.  If that is considered "gloating" so be it.

Serial killers are a sub species in my opinion, not that different from the specialised mongrels who kill in the name of their backward primal urges simply because they want to and can;  the killer's demise is a relief to the rest of us who do not and would not (murder other humans).

[gutterpunkz05]

Why does it make any difference to you, personally, if Milat, or a thousand others like him, are dead or alive.

[tasfleur]

That's a valid question.

For what it is worth, I believe it affects us all when the Milat types do what they do.  It is beyond explanation. 

Perhaps it is more to do with that particular kind of human condition which is kept hidden until it strikes and leaves innocent people wondering how safe they really are on any given ordinary day in ordinary places, let alone where it is known to be dangerous .. 

[gutterpunkz05]

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@tasfleur wrote:

That's a valid question.

For what it is worth, I believe it affects us all when the Milat types do what they do.  It is beyond explanation. 

Perhaps it is more to do with that particular kind of human condition which is kept hidden until it strikes and leaves innocent people wondering how safe they really are on any given ordinary day in ordinary places, let alone where it is known to be dangerous .. 

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True, but as he was already in custody, his death has no relevance to our safety.  Dont get me wrong, I have no sympathy, but also dont feel any satisfaction (if thats the right word), and definately no relief, as he posed no current threat.

[domino-710]

And if there were to be a ' copycat '. ??

[tasfleur]

I write about how these killers affect all innocent people;  so it's not about me in particular, whether they are in custody or not. 

Conversely, the Milats of this world are always a threat while they are still alive, even to the staff whose job it is to guard them, so in my opinion, these insane killers become twice as dangerous when they have nothing to lose.

There is a part of me that thinks capital punishment is a great idea for certain killers, but then again, given all the mistakes that are made where innocent people are wrongly executed, it is not worth the risk.  It is a dilemma.