"Religious people are merely Victims. "

We need more understanding. Religious people are merely victims of brain-washing and indoctrination. Challenge the idea/doctrine not the people. 

 

Discuss. 

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@evil_akuma_2002 wrote:

No 1. I have absolutely NO intention of debating the merits of a book of fairytales with you. Somehow, discussing the merits and/or truth of the finer points of a fable does nothing but leave me cold, and is at best, a futile waste of time. My days of defending an archaic book of superstition are past.

 

No 2. The sheer arrogance of your tone throughout your posts, (rants, really),  does nothing for your point of view other than destroy any semblance of credibility you may have once had. I am reminded of several passages out of your bible.

 

Proverbs 16:5, 16:8 and 26:12.

 

There are many more, but hopefully, you get my drift.

At every turn, your demanding arrogance and pride in yourself come shining through, just like the deluded little theist that you are. Your tone indicates the typical theist stance of being 100% right - without even the remote possiblity that you could be incorrect in your position.

Like every theist I've encountered, including myself at one time, you have deluded yourself into believing that you, and only you, have the one true and correct interpretation of your holy book, and somehow, everyone else throughout this great planet, and throughout time, has been wrong. Despite the millions of hours that have been dedictaed to researching the greatest book of fiction known to mankind, you, and only you, know the true meaning of the bible. Sheer arrogance, pride and wilful ignorance.

 

No, I have no intention of answering any of your questions, or debating your book of myths, as not once have you deemed my earlier questions worthy of a response - in typical theist denial tactics, you've thrown the onus back to your opponent, in the desperate hope that it will deflect from your totally unsupported stance.

 

I've encountered your type before. Countless times.

 

So conceitedly insulated in your own theistic little world, that you disregard anyone else as beneath you - so deeply committed to your narrow little world view, you fail to see how many of your cardinal rules you are breaking!

 

In all of your posts, you've displayed a wilful and shameless ignorance of the world around you - and I find that sad. To devote one's life to pious worship of an ephemeral deity, with nothing but a book dedicated to him as proof, rather than experience the joys of the natural world around you, in all its wonderful, evolved complexity, now seems such a waste of a life.

 


The more I read what you write the more I read what a fool and arrogance prideful idiot you are.

SO AGAIN FOOL I ASK YOU TO SHOW MWE HOW ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURE THE CRUCIFIXION COULD HAVE BEEN ON A FRIDAY!

Show me donkey how ALL THOSE ALL THOSE SCHOLARS WITH AKLL THOSEHOURS GOT IT RIGHT AND I GOT IT WRONG!

You are a fool.Go away donkey and stay away in your own little world.WW3 is soon and thankfully people like you are forbidden to repent and excluded from the safety of the Lord.Thankfully the LOrd is merciful to His people and will destroy people like you and your families so we never have to tolerate your ignorance again.

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@softail-joanie wrote:

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Joanie these people here like most have their heads in the sand.They do not care.They will soon but then too late.

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@lionofjudah60 wrote:

@*stuff*books* wrote:

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Their Bible is not wrong.Their interpretation and translation is wrong and provable.

I do not have to convince them if they dont want to listen and people like BOB need to be shown because he calls the Bible a lie.So I can show him that he does not know what he is talking about.

 

If you are not interested then DO NOT READ!Dont read and then tell me I cannot post it.YOU do not pay my bills and therefore YOU do not have the right to tell me what to do.

 

I stated I'm not interested in religion,(as in not believing in a god or entitiy).

 

Nowhere have I stated that you post anything,(my statements are that you are trying to "influence" the wrong people).

 

As for deaths in the name of religion yiou said millions have been killed in the name of religion.MANY MANY MORE have been killed by atheists.You conveniently forget that.


No I didn't as I stated:

 

I'm not talking about the majority like Hitler,Pol Pot and others who where zealots that believed their own form of genocide.

 

Those are two of the worst that where responsible for tens of millions of deaths,(but they where termed madman).

 


@lionofjudah60 wrote:

You stated you have NO INTEREST!Tell me what it would take to make you interested.Billions of fish dying does not do it and it is in the Bible.Current events do not do it and they are in the Bible.How bad does the world need to be before you admit you may be wrong and search for God?

There is nothing that would make me search for something I don't believe in,(scientists will just keep blaming global warming
for any "natural" disaster).
IMHO I reckon the Earth will be destroyed by the people on it through excessive mining,pollution,over crowding and natural 

   disasters such as earthquakes)

 

 

 

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@*stuff*books* wrote:

@lionofjudah60 wrote:

@*stuff*books* wrote:

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Their Bible is not wrong.Their interpretation and translation is wrong and provable.

I do not have to convince them if they dont want to listen and people like BOB need to be shown because he calls the Bible a lie.So I can show him that he does not know what he is talking about.

 

If you are not interested then DO NOT READ!Dont read and then tell me I cannot post it.YOU do not pay my bills and therefore YOU do not have the right to tell me what to do.

 

I stated I'm not interested in religion,(as in not believing in a god or entitiy).

 

Nowhere have I stated that you post anything,(my statements are that you are trying to "influence" the wrong people).

 

As for deaths in the name of religion yiou said millions have been killed in the name of religion.MANY MANY MORE have been killed by atheists.You conveniently forget that.


No I didn't as I stated:

 

I'm not talking about the majority like Hitler,Pol Pot and others who where zealots that believed their own form of genocide.

 

Those are two of the worst that where responsible for tens of millions of deaths,(but they where termed madman).

 


@lionofjudah60 wrote:

You stated you have NO INTEREST!Tell me what it would take to make you interested.Billions of fish dying does not do it and it is in the Bible.Current events do not do it and they are in the Bible.How bad does the world need to be before you admit you may be wrong and search for God?

There is nothing that would make me search for something I don't believe in,(scientists will just keep blaming global warming
for any "natural" disaster).
IMHO I reckon the Earth will be destroyed by the people on it through excessive mining,pollution,over crowding and natural 

   disasters such as earthquakes)

 

 

 


The good news is you will find out soon.Very soon.

 

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@lionofjudah60 wrote:


What annoys me is the so called Biblical experts.They study at theology school.They get degrees in ministry.They write books and make movies.Yet they could not get the simple things correct.The BIBLE tells us when Jesus was born.It was in what we call 6AD.6 years later than they say.Not 5BC not 0 but 6AD and the Bible shows this clearly.


Actually, there is one thing that is 100% for sure, BIBLE shows absolutely NOTHING clearly.  Bible is a compilation of various writings in different ancient languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. While a modern version of each of these languages is spoken today, most modern readers of those languages would have some difficulty with the ancient versions used in the Biblical texts.  So, anybody can find in those texts anything they want, and argue that their version is right.   🙂

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

@lionofjudah60 wrote:


What annoys me is the so called Biblical experts.They study at theology school.They get degrees in ministry.They write books and make movies.Yet they could not get the simple things correct.The BIBLE tells us when Jesus was born.It was in what we call 6AD.6 years later than they say.Not 5BC not 0 but 6AD and the Bible shows this clearly.


Actually, there is one thing that is 100% for sure, BIBLE shows absolutely NOTHING clearly.  Bible is a compilation of various writings in different ancient languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. While a modern version of each of these languages is spoken today, most modern readers of those languages would have some difficulty with the ancient versions used in the Biblical texts.  So, anybody can find in those texts anything they want, and argue that their version is right.   🙂


That isnot true.It shows a great deal CLEARLY.But lets get back to the point of GOOD FRIDAY!

The Bible shows CLEARLY (even though say it doesnt)that Jesus must be in the tomb 3 days and 3 nights and alse clearly that He rose Sunday.

So there are 2 things it is clear on.

Now my question was and IS ,why and how did all these so called experts come to the conclusion,based on Scripture that Jesus was crucified on a FRIDAY?

This is not a matter of arguing right or wrong.I AM RIGHT!It could not have been a FRIDAY!So the conceited ones are the ones that claim to be experts and get this wrong when simple math proves them wrong.

 

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Joanie these people here like most have their heads in the sand.They do not care.They will soon but then too late

 

I prefer to think these are good people who have a right to their own views and opinions, even if those views and opinions paint me as a horrable person. If I didn't like these people, I wouldn't bother to talk to them. Why do you bother to talk to them?, BTW.

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@softail-joanie wrote:

Joanie these people here like most have their heads in the sand.They do not care.They will soon but then too late

 

I prefer to think these are good people who have a right to their own views and opinions, even if those views and opinions paint me as a horrable person. If I didn't like these people, I wouldn't bother to talk to them. Why do you bother to talk to them?, BTW.


Because I intend to say what is on my mind.If they do not want to respond that is fine.But their blood will notbe on my hands.When the world collapses and Jesus intervenes they can never say I never warned them.The blood will be on their hands not mine.

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@lionofjudah60 wrote:

When USSR passed anti religious laws and killed 60 million people that was not in the name of atheism?

Some facts:

population of the USSR:

 

1917 - 184.6 mil

1926 - 147.0 mil

1931 - 161.0 mil

1939 - 170.6 mil

1940 - 191.7 mil

1950 - 181.0 mil

1960 - 214.2 mil

 

Stalin was in power 1929 to 1953; so where are the 60millions that you claim Stalin killed in name of atheism?  I mean lots of people died in 1st WW and then people died in famine, and even more people died during German occupation,  June 1941 - 1945, and people died because they were sent to Siberia.   While it is possible that as many as 60 million people did die in the USSR during the 24 years of dictatorship of Stalin, they did not die because they believed in God.  As you can see the major drop in population in the USSR occurred around the times of the world wars. 

 


@lionofjudah60 wrote:


 You just hate God and anyone that follows God

No I do not hate you, and I certainly have absolutely no felings whatsoever about any mythical beings.

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