seems mandatory vaccine is the go for the work place ....

[rogespeed]

The vaccine for covid , seems now being mandated for those currently employed

Seems like a violation of the existing conditions of employment for many , particularly whereby there is no mandate for  influenza vaccine requirement

Of course a harmless vaccine proven to mitigate against deadly covid-19 is desirable however some may object for whatever reason - and as are currently employed , one wonders the moral efficacy of coerced inoculation, as is clearly a workplace agreement item 

There is talk of dismissing currently employed workers for non-compliance

This to me would violate existing workplace agreements and a violation - fully paid leave would be the only  ethical way of excluding current employees ( unless all are retrenched then re-employed under covid safe clauses ) 

If there was no alternate to vaccination a strong case could be argued

But there are alternatives - periodic pcr tests,  daily check-in fast antigen tests , 1 minute on the treadmill 

The vaccines are released under emergency use meaning are experimental , so clearly fall under international law regarding strictly no forcing of experimental treatments

All that i am saying is that while inoculation is the most convenient , controllable and cost effective procedure , there should be an alternate process that meets workplace requirements

[the_great_she_elephant]

4channel wrote: “Well, that's a good question. Perhaps Rachel Stein consulted her horoscope chart to give some body to her theory about the deaths of the Amish in the month of November. 

When I said "astral", I was actually wondering if she met someone on the Astral plane and was led to believe that the info presented to her was valid.  Of course like her presentation,  "astral" is just a possibility.   So, as I said previously, I'm not saying that she was commissioned to create a conclusion, but somehow she has created one. Now, this theoretical conclusion does by default suit an agenda. Coincidence? Possibly But useful to those who want to make a point nonetheless.”

Are you seriously suggesting she may have consulted her horoscope or is this an attempt at sarcasm - which has no place in rational discussion 

And do you believe in Astral Plains or is this simply more sarcasm?

[the_great_she_elephant]

If you don’t clearly say what you mean, people may assume you mean what you say - particularly on an online forum where they can see your words but not your body language 

[rogespeed]

32-40 % mortality at zero-mitigation loadings afflicting the 80+  elderly includes people of the " Montgomery Burns*" socio-economic demographic - hence I imagine the additional efforts to fast track a vaccine due to covid-19 at dangerous loadings being far more contagious than socially acceptable influenza ( 50 - 500 untimely deaths per year ) 

* old money senior aged top end of town industrialists 

[rogespeed]

Fractured factual tales : 

In a province in India ( population greater than Australia in number of people ) which was being over run with covid , established medical had no means to vaccinate the masses , so they threw up their hands and placated popular demand for treatment using invermectin , and to everyones surprise untimely deaths dropped to almost zero 

Obviously a mass psychosomatic event.....

Which shows the power of the mind manifest in emotions and belief in healing .....

( unless Covid-19 is really caused by the presence of a parasitic worm... ) 

After-all how can a treatment for worms defeat a virus ? 

[domino-710]

Where's the link for : Fractured factual tales???

[padi*0409]

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@rogespeed wrote:

.................and to everyones surprise untimely deaths dropped to almost zero 

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Not too sure that I'd be taking their stats as gospel :-

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-21/india-covid-deaths-could-be-in-the-millions/100310602

[domino-710]

LOL - Silence on the home front. 🤣

[padi*0409]

Don't worry Dom, I'm certain there'll be more misinformation coming up, maybe even some off-topic WMD pearlers.

[4channel]

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@rogespeed wrote:

Fractured factual tales : 

In a province in India ( population greater than Australia in number of people ) which was being over run with covid , established medical had no means to vaccinate the masses , so they threw up their hands and placated popular demand for treatment using invermectin , and to everyones surprise untimely deaths dropped to almost zero 

Obviously a mass psychosomatic event.....

Which shows the power of the mind manifest in emotions and belief in healing .....

( unless Covid-19 is really caused by the presence of a parasitic worm... ) 

After-all how can a treatment for worms defeat a virus ? 

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Quote: "After-all how can a treatment for worms defeat a virus ? ". Well, that's a good question. Sadly when people like you ask these questions, those who love empires, those who worship empires, worship a system based on class, a system that may also oppress people  .. .. ..   they cringe when people ask questions that you have here. A similar question would be ....  "How can a treatment using a substance derived from mold save so many lives"?  Well, penicillin did just that as Jennifer Rosenberg explains ! Things happen and they work for the betterment of humanity. What hinders their use in a lot of cases in the wider spectrum is incompetence and corruption. Pride can be another factor and it is not unknown for the pride of certain people of influence to allow the deaths of many just to keep intact the pride and reputation of a few. For some people in certain positions to backtrack now at this later stage would leave themselves open to law suits.

An article here on the Christianity Daily website by journalist  Sarah Mae Saliong is quite revealing. Sometimes regulations IMO can be helpful, very helpful in fact to keep shareholders of certain large industries happy. I'm not saying that this is always the case. Sometimes gross incompetence due to the low quality of human being that get into politics turn what is supposed to be a regulation for safety into something akin to a blockage in a water conduit that turns a green valley into a wasteland.

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Trial Site News

Physicians Rise Up Against WHO “Wait and See” Protocol
TrialSite Staff October 6, 2021

https://trialsitenews.com/physicians-rise-up-against-who-wait-and-see-protocol/

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The Desert Review

Dr. Fareed addresses Italian Senate at COVID summit

By George C. Fareed, M.D. Sep 16, 2021 Updated Sep 21, 2021

https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/local/dr-fareed-addresses-italian-senate-at-covid-summit/articl...

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Pat Kenny interviews Dr. Pierre Kory on Ivermectin as Covid-19 Therapeutic
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dublinvids

Pat Kenny interviews Dr. Pierre Kory on Ivermectin as Covid-19 Therapeutic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfL86mtPpXM

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Just a minor snippet of the hundreds and hundreds of highly credible accounts. Listening to Dr. Khory in the first few minutes, it becomes obvious as to what really may be going on.

You know, talking about pride as I did earlier in this post,  and how some people of influence can never go back on their stance towards oral drugs. To them, their reputation and lifestyle they have grown accustomed to, which would be under threat if they were sued is more important than the lives of many.

Some years back I watched a movie about a "Negro" soldier who had an affair with a Caucasian English woman. I don't think it was based on a true story. Anyway, she has an affair with him and this is later discovered by her philandering husband who blackmails her into saying that she was raped by him. I think from memory this was so that she wouldn't lose her son. In the end the "Negro" soldier is executed by hanging and her words that could have saved him, in fact freed him were never uttered. Quite a sad movie. If I'm right, the film was The Affair  which starred Courtney B. Vance as the soldier Travis Holloway and Kerry Fox as the woman, Maggie Leyland.

Remember that oral drugs are not used on their own. They are used in conjunction with other substances.

[domino-710]

PS: It's MOULD. 😉