so are we going to see a lot of homeless young people ?

[lakeland27]

People under 30 who are unemployed will have to wait six months to be eligible for  Newstart benefits, and will only be able to claim it for six months before the benefit is cut for another six months. This six-month cycle of getting benefits cut and returned will continue until someone gets a job or turns 30.

[*elizabeths-mum*]

What happens if they miss the semester enrolment deadline because they were in employment? By the time a new semester comes along, they would be eligible for Newstart.

[lakeland27]

in some areas there are no jobs. none. if this happens in victoria it will look like the walking dead and these people will be out on their ... . i think they'll be booted anyway, defeated comprehensively to never return.

[cherry*135]

Earn or learn for under 25's otherwise they get Youth Allce (not Newstart as at present).

Result: the whole potential workforce has a certificate or higher.. still doesn't mean they will get a job, if there aren't enough to go round.

[*elizabeths-mum*]

Even educated young people have trouble getting jobs.

[*elizabeths-mum*]

Is youth allowance the under 25s version of austudy?

[boris1gary]

yes somewhere there is a problem, it's called unemployment, 5.8% official figure, so it's probably closer to 7 or 8%. If you go to TAFE it costs a large chunk of your newstart and chances are the TAFE course has either been slashed or by the time you finish there isn't any work in that area anyway. The jobs aren't there. Now with how many thousands of public servant jobs going, we can add those as well.

[cherry*135]

Yes, the do. As in another thread on here.. teaching jobs (esp in Qld) are mostly casual now, hard to get a permanent position.

No pay in the school holidays (3mths of the year?)

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@*crikey*mate* wrote:

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seriously?

can they at least get into some sort of study and get the payment for studying?

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Have you not seen what they have just done to universities crikey???

They have just deregulated uni fees. That means the only people that will get a tertiary education are overseas students and kids of rich folk.

You want an architecture degree at NSW Uni? They currently pay $150,000. With deregulation we can expect to at least quadruple that.

So your average kid from the wrong side of the tracks has just been hit a double whammy from all sides. No prospect of an education. No prospect of a job. No prospect of getting food in their mouth.

[lakeland27]

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@am*3 wrote:

Earn or learn for under 25's otherwise they get Youth Allce not Newstart. Heard that just now on TV so may not be exactly right.

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 schools full of kids half who don't belong or want to be there. the gonski funding is going too, so make that run- down schools with a large percentage of students not actually studying but disrupting those that do study.  its going to be a circus and teachers will leave in droves.

brilliant .

[cherry*135]

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@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:
Is youth allowance the under 25s version of austudy?

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Yes, it is. Although I think you can still go on that from 16 if you live at home and household income is very low (so for kids at high school too)

You can earn $400 a ft nt on YA and still get the full YA.