where was god?

[davidc4430]

Woman fighting for life, 28 injured in NSW bus crash

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-27/bus-crash-in-harden-injures-17-people/11553584

he/she musta been busy?

[domino-710]

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@brerrabbit585 wrote:

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@chameleon54 wrote:

My family are pretty straight, practicle, no time for buII s**t  sort of people ( who would have guessed ) but many members of the family seem to have a well developed sense of " spirituality " for lack of a better word. I have one sister who works with indiginous communities who swears she can see spirits or ghosts. My mother often phones during crisis to ask what is wrong and my young son would " guess " what song was going to play on the radio before it started. Not once but several times in a row.

 I,ve personally experienced enough unexplained phenomina to know that there is a lot of stuff we dont know or understand. I put a lot of it down to ESP and intuition which could be a natural, ancient communication or survival instinct that all animals have to some extent, with some having a more well developed " gift " or natural apptitude in the skill, but this doesnt explain the sisters ghost stories ( or the same experiences both myself and a later resident of an old house had ).

I also look at ancient cultures. All have some form of religeon, often very similar in characteristics. Some of this could be explained by ancient see travel and communication between civilisations, but it doesnt explain it all. They all believe in fairly similar stuff..... Did they all have it wrong ?

Personally I dont believe in the god and fairy stories of any specific book. It is simply not rational to believe that one specific story book has everything just right and all the others are wrong, but I suspect there is a whole lot of stuff going on that science has not even looked at yet.

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So anyone who believes that The Bible is true is not rational, but it's rational to believe in other 'spirits'?  Join David in the ranks of the mockers.  This isn't the first time he's mocked people who profess to be Christian and actually try and follow Christ.  He's denigrated Christians (and God) more than once before, all based on what he thinks the Bible says, but he misquotes it because he hasn't got a clue.  He seems quite proud of the fact that he doesn't believe in God, and if God isn't in his life how could he be anything but godless?  It's not rational to say someone is godly if they don't even believe in God and you have to be either one or the other - godly or godless.

I just love the way it's okay to mock religious people but if we dare say anything against people who aren't religious we're the worst in the world.  Talk about double standards!!

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Perhaps the OP was asking a serious question.

' Where was God '.

Any answers. ??

[not_for_sale2025]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

sorry if my sense of humor set anyone off

whilst i dont believe in god or the afterlife i do hope there is something better waiting for me than this life gave, not that this life has been particularly bad.

if anyone has a strong belief there is some entity out there looking after them go for it, as long as your not harming anyone or trying to convince me by saying by not believing i'm going to go somewhere not nice when i die.

i'll find out eventually, and if it turns out living peacefully and not being involved with others sends you to hell, then whats that say about the other place?

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Good on you David, but IMO you don't need to apologise to anybody. Those people who judge and attempt to instil fear by commenting on the eternal destiny of others do not represent God. That is not godly. It is a frail yet naive human quality. Far too many people think their destiny is guaranteed because they claim to hold a religious membership. If only it were that easy. Personally, I think the life we choose to live is that by which we will be judged after we are gone. And somebody who chose to live peacefully and privately sounds like a reasonable person to me.

[tasfleur]

"I just love the way it's okay to mock religious people but if we dare say anything against people who aren't religious we're the worst in the world.  Talk about double standards!!"

There are a vast number of people and institutions that call themselves "christian" who have turned mocking, hatred, degrading, intimidating and persecuting of those who are not religious into an art form second to none.

These kind of religious bigots openly refer to non believers as heathens, infidels and other abusive names and worse.  They insist they have the "truth" and nothing but the truth, but unfortunately, it makes these hysterical fanatics look like utterly hypocritical charlatans.

There are many quotes from the christian bible that, interestingly, describe how these hypocrites function by using religion to inflate and authorise themselves by deliberate misinterpretation to achieve their miserable intentions against people who just want to live in peace and quiet minus the hell raising tactics in their face.

Religions are entitled to exist, but there should be clear boundaries and parameters that do not and cannot violate the rights of those who, likewise, want to live otherwise.

[tezza2844]

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@springyzone wrote:

You're quite right in that Christianity is under attack at the moment. It is almost fashionable to mock Christians. You'll notice that very few dare to mock muslims. They'll tell you there are extremes in 'every' religion, (which of course there are) but they know in a practical sense what is safe to mock & what's not. I actually believe that some of the trendies are going about hating our traditional western society.

Wow.... Earth to what ever alien planet your on, What is your ETA back to earth..

[colic2bullsgirlore]

Idolatry and the worship of false idols

Their are approximately 4200 "religions" in the world

The difference between an atheist and any follower of the mainstream monothiestic religions ie Christianity Islam or Judaism is that the

atheist does  not give credence to 4200 religions while the Abrahamic followers give none to 4199 religions. What an arrogant stance to

think that an  atheist is any different to a believer when they are in agreement that 4199 regions are bunkum but disagree on  one

[springyzone]

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@tezza2844 wrote:

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@springyzone wrote:

You're quite right in that Christianity is under attack at the moment. It is almost fashionable to mock Christians. You'll notice that very few dare to mock muslims. They'll tell you there are extremes in 'every' religion, (which of course there are) but they know in a practical sense what is safe to mock & what's not. I actually believe that some of the trendies are going about hating our traditional western society.

Wow.... Earth to what ever alien planet your on, What is your ETA back to earth..

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You show me the last cartoon, the last TV comedy that openly made fun of muslims or their religion in an insulting way, the last man dressed as a muslim woman etc in the Gay pride marches.

They are few and far between.

I did say MOCK. I didn't say discuss. Please pay attention.

Of course people on the news reports will sometimes earnestly mention the muslim religion.

In debate etc

In private, some people may also say things.

But I am talking about officially, in public.

You saw the results recently where Kyle Sandilands made a remark about Mary and had both muslims & Christians protesting. I bet he got a nasty shock at that, I bet he only thought he was offending Christians.

That's why he had the guts to say it.

It's a few years back, but surely you recall the death threats and outrage worldwide about some cartoons? Or the violent reaction to the "Satanic verses"?

I'm not having a go at muslims generally, I'm just saying. People in the media know very well that if they say very derogatory things about Christianity, they may spark controversy and a bit of publicity but it is very unlikely there will be an orchestrated campaign to kill them. On the other hand, if they push too far with Islamic denigration, they'll be in massive trouble.

[tasfleur]

I suspect that genuine so called atheists  are those who think that all religions are man made ideas that have been built on fear, power, control, money and last but not least, invented to shape fantasy into reality for those who cannot, will not and do not want to take the responsibility for their personal journey through life in the real world.

It's what superstition is about overall (in my opinion).  A gigantic conspiracy theory that can suck real life out of what is the comparably very short life of humans.   The threatening nature of religions have built the notion of hell and heaven as reality, but the truth is, those that spout that fantasy, have absolutely no idea either.

I am not whatever an atheist is .. I believe there is/was/could be a "creator", but I know I will never know, and I suspect, neither will or does anyone else know.

The only difference between an "atheist" and the "religious", as far as I am concerned, is the "atheist" chooses to not believe in any organised religion while the religious choose to follow a like minded flock who have a serious need to do that.  No a lot of choice if they were born into it either, even as adults if it is well and truly imbedded.

[tasfleur]

That last line should read "not" a lot of choice ... 

[colic2bullsgirlore]

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@tasfleur wrote:

I suspect that genuine so called atheists  are those who think that all religions are man made ideas that have been built on fear, power, control, money and last but not least, invented to shape fantasy into reality for those who cannot, will not and do not want to take the responsibility for their personal journey through life in the real world.

It's what superstition is about overall (in my opinion).  A gigantic conspiracy theory that can suck real life out of what is the comparably very short life of humans.   The threatening nature of religions have built the notion of hell and heaven as reality, but the truth is, those that spout that fantasy, have absolutely no idea either.

I am not whatever an atheist is .. I believe there is/was/could be a "creator", but I know I will never know, and I suspect, neither will or does anyone else know.

The only difference between an "atheist" and the "religious", as far as I am concerned, is the "atheist" chooses to not believe in any organised religion while the religious choose to follow a like minded flock who have a serious need to do that.  No a lot of choice if they were born into it either, even as adults if it is well and truly imbedded.

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Agnosticism =  An agnostic is popularly defined as a person who holds to a middle ground between atheism and theism who also believes that the existence of God is a definite possibility but it is not within the realm of one’s knowledge. 

[martinw-48]

I was an atheist when I was young but have been agnostic for many years