on โ14-04-2013 01:53 PM
Catholic schools get government funding anyway? now university money is going towards private schooling. wth.
if Catholics want their own little private indoctrination schools- fine- but they should pay for them. fgs just call the Vatican.
on โ14-04-2013 09:00 PM
i could only find a pic of one clog .
on โ14-04-2013 09:08 PM
couldn't fit both into the picture frame, eh?
LOL
on โ14-04-2013 09:09 PM
couldn't fit both into the picture frame, eh?
LOL
the other trailer is further back.
on โ14-04-2013 09:12 PM
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I never got why this is thrown around. Tell me one Atheist who believes this. You would find they say they don't know how the universe began. Theist believe they know God did it. I would like it if they can explain to me how God created something from nothing???
Then explain to me how something so intelligent and complex as God can just come about from nothing.
Thanks.
on โ14-04-2013 09:29 PM
on โ14-04-2013 09:30 PM
on โ14-04-2013 11:30 PM
They do not get more funding.
Perhaps I worded that incorrectly.
On a per student ration, private schools are funded to 3 times the amount that a public school is funded. This was a 2010 statistic so it is probably slightly more now.
That means that for each dollar invested in a child in the public system, $3 is invested in a child in the public system.
That is something that has happened only within the last 15 years. Prior to this, most education particularly in primary years was focused on public schools. And that is where the funding went.
By 2004 or 2005 the situation became acute and the statistic went something like this - at the time something like 70% of kids in Australia were in a public system yet they only got 30% of all funding.
Thanks to this kind of shortsightedness, everyone started pulling their kids out of the (underfunded) public system and now we all have to pay through the nose to have our kids educated in the private system cause only private schools have the funds to provide what we now expect.
The public system got well and truly screwed.
And it's been no secret that our standards in education have also dropped accordingly over the past decade and a bit.
Funny coincidence huh?
on โ14-04-2013 11:45 PM
http://theconversation.com/unfair-funding-is-turning-public-schools-into-sinks-of-disadvantage-751
A good article by David Zyngier on what has happened to our public system since we started to subsidise the private system so heavily.
A good point is made in the article questioning where the tipping point will be. I suspect we have already passed the point of no return and the disadvantages for many public educated kids will become enormous in the next 2 decades.
on โ14-04-2013 11:57 PM
so a private school is at fault for trying to raise the standards of our education system so that our kids at least have a shot at competing on the world stage?
Our kids don't compete for jobs with the kid in the next desk to them anymore - they're now competing with other kids for the same jobs and uni places from all over the world.
Dunno about you - but I do expect that my kids get a comparable education to those from other countries. Can't see why that's a bad thing - hopefully it will shame our gov into raising their expectations and standards instead of continually dumbing down the curriculum.
On a per student ration, private schools are funded to 3 times the amount that a public school is funded. This was a 2010 statistic so it is probably slightly more now.
That means that for each dollar invested in a child in the public system, $3 is invested in a child in the public system.
and as for that bit - you haven't taken into account the fact that the private schools have to build their own buildings and buy their own equipment for their pupils or the fact that they also already pay for a spot in the public system which they DONT USE - so you need to use all the data - not just the hand picked bits that sup[port your opinion, cos I'm willing to bet you all the money in my pocket that those statistics are biased and do NOT take into consideration the fact that the gov has already supplied the buildings and equipment etc so not counted as part of the funding.
The bottom line is - without a private education system - hardly any of our kids will get an education - or at least one of any value.
If the education system is so poor in the state system (and I don't believe it is) then it's time that someone stepped up to the plate and raised the standards - not try to pull down those who are already aiming higher.
on โ15-04-2013 12:00 AM
additionally, figures were presented earlier in this thread that contradict or dispute your claims that the funding is three times higher...
plus I know that this just aint true....