How are people verifying their identity without a passport or drivers licence NSW, AU

[popalicious_collectables_aus]

Hi all.

A family member who has been on eBay for quite sometime as a buyer has decided to sell some items. This item was listed and sold. eBay then held the funds until their identity was verified. They have an expired passport no drivers licence but do have NSW proof of age card.

We have tried entering the proof of age into the drivers licence fields like mentioned in some other posts but those posts were from over a year ago. No good now.

You can't upload tax document or other documents anywhere else. How is anyone else getting their identity verified?

[springyzone]

Jellybird, I don't have a problem at all with ebay having stringent registration requirements.

In fact, as a buyer, I applaud it. It is vital. I have never said it wasn't.

It is just that I think no one should be able to list on ebay at all until they have gone through this verification process and that there should be multiple ways in which to qualify. Not everyone has a passport or licence but I think there could be other verification paths. eg medicare card, proof of age card, birth certificate, bank account numbers etc

I am sure there are a few other ways as well.

If ebay could get its act together and have verification & managed payments as a necessity before listing, we would not see some new sellers in the position of having to scramble like popalicious or else wondering why the money was never coming through to them.

Time after time I see boardies here answering a poster to say that poster will never get their money till they sign up. I am sure some sellers of small items just let it all go. It is so wrong of ebay on many levels.

[sandowneggs]

EBay has your name and address-your date of birth-your gender-your credit card  and bank a/c details.-your PayPal history since joining-email address -phone number etc.etc.

Enough is enough in my view-As a member for over 20 years I have seen hundreds of changes that eBay has made, and every change is detrimental for sellers.

Now they want photo evidence to verify your identity. I mean---come on now, if all the info they hold on you is not verification-then all they need to do is check the rolls or your phone number.

No-they want a COLOUR  and CLEAR photo--special mention of that--WHY? Better to copy from I say.

Dump eBay I say-plenty of other platforms.

I don't want my identity stolen.

[padi*0409]

It's an Australian Government regulation that people selling on eBay HAVE to verify their bank details and personal ID - in fact eBay is one of the last to implement that.

So, if you refuse to do that how do you expect to get the money from your coin set if it sells ?

[sandypebbles]

Why wait over three years (since this has been required) (and it was announced two years prior to that) to have a 'this should'nt apply to me' rant

I very much doubt that 'eBay' is the only place that has all your info

Anyone who has their information anywhere can have their identity stolen

Certainly not unique or more so on eBay

A fact it is a risk in the modern world 

Other platforms are certainly  more of a risk

scammers love things like Gumtree

Many news stories about people being attacked or killed when selling on Facebook Marketplace

And Paypal has nothing to do with eBay for sellers , for years

[sugar249]

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@sandowneggs wrote:

EBay has your name and address-your date of birth-your gender-your credit card  and bank a/c details.-your PayPal history since joining-email address -phone number etc.etc.

Enough is enough in my view-As a member for over 20 years I have seen hundreds of changes that eBay has made, and every change is detrimental for sellers.

Now they want photo evidence to verify your identity. I mean---come on now, if all the info they hold on you is not verification-then all they need to do is check the rolls or your phone number.

No-they want a COLOUR  and CLEAR photo--special mention of that--WHY? Better to copy from I say.

Dump eBay I say-plenty of other platforms.

I don't want my identity stolen.

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But you are still happy to sell a high value item on Ebay,   you wouldnt list if you were that concerned.  

[imastawka]

It's OK sugar.

If they don't supply the info ebay requires for ID then, sure, they can sell it........just won't get the money for it.

Sandowneggs supply the info or ebay has nowhere to send the money.

Registering as a seller | eBay

If someone does buy your coin set, ebay will hold that money for 30 days, but you must post it within your handling time, when ebay tells you it has sold.

[sugar249]

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@imastawka wrote:

It's OK sugar.

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But they are saying dump Ebay,  you wouldnt list if you were dumping them.  Just seems weird to me.  Or is my logic unlogical

[imastawka]

Your logic is logical.

I only meant to not sweat the small stuff - they'll learn soon enough that their way is not the right way.

[countessalmirena]

@sandowneggs,

It’s frustrating and yet necessary. Let’s say that you need to order a new birth certificate from your BDM. You are required to prove your identity to the standard and in the forms required by the BDM… and the BDM will not care if you tell them that they know your gender, address, phone number, date of birth, credit card details, bank account, etc. That’s not what they need.

No.

You must provide the ID as required, otherwise you can go whistle for your birth certificate.

The same for anything to do with obtaining any sort of similar document or service from the government, or financial services, buying and selling.

Australia has had to beef up its ID requirements. The world has changed; international movement of money has changed; criminals have become masters of corporate structure and international reach through the digital /online world.

Yes, providing ID is risky. The alternative would be worse on a global scale.

[manicstate]

I have no issue with them getting the ID, it's what they do AFTER that bothers me....seems this is a HUGE treasure trove for hackers, and what guarantees do we have from eBay who probably don't give  if you are hacked anyway...

If the delete that data, after verification, then that's ok, if not, then I'll never voluntarily give up a guaranteed identity theft by a full photo (front and back with all the secretly features exposed)  licence.

They only really need the front anyway.