on 15-08-2013 11:12 AM
This was something I was sure I'd read somewhere within eBay's maze of help & policy pages, but proved difficult to find again... However, in light of the new TRS+ requirements and the fact that many sellers will be changing their return policy, I thought it was important to note it as I know it is a common practice to state Returns Accepted with the condition but not for change of mind or only for not as described.
eBay's policy is:
If you accept returns, a buyer can return an item for any reason, including when they change their mind about a purchase. However, you can specify the conditions required for return—for example, if an item must be unused, unopened, or in original packaging.
http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/selling-practices.html
So , if you do not want to accept change of mind returns, you should have the policy set to 'No Returns Accepted'.
15-08-2013 05:51 PM - edited 15-08-2013 05:51 PM
@pinktoedannie wrote:Your example is a bit confusing, however, you are wrong. Businesses are not allowed to misinform customers. They are also not allowed to have policies that contravene existing law.
That is true, but the primary point I was trying to make in this thread is that the return policy on eBay is to note what your are prepared to offer buyers in addition to their consumer rights.
eBay's Listing Policy is that if you acept returns then you must accept returns for any reason, including change of mind. Just like eBay's listing policy is that you have to offer at least one safe payment method - none of these contravene any consumer laws, they are eBay policies. Therefore it is technically the same kind of contradiction of policies to say Returns Accepted (but not for change of mind) as it is to offer PayPal then in the description say Bank Deposit Only.
To further clarify, if you have access to the new global policy rules, when you select 'No Returns' as a policy, this note pops up:
Australian Consumers have legal rights to obtain a repair, replacement, or refund for goods purchased if they are faulty, not fit for purpose or don't match the description. Your returns policy applies to additional rights you offer such as returns for change of mind or incorrect choice.
15-08-2013 06:03 PM - edited 15-08-2013 06:04 PM
The more I read on the site map the more I realise how confused and contradictory the information is on this matter, for example the ebay site map states ...
Sellers are required under Australian law to accept returns for goods purchased from a business and provide Australian consumers with a repair, replacement or refund if the goods etc etc
And then ebay site map - goes on to explain in the next breath an entirely differently take on what accept returns actually means when filling in a listing and in fact only want me to select no returns accepted if I don't offer returns for change of mind or any reason.
Does not make sense to me ??? it is very misleading for both seller and buyer.
Rock and hard place really .......
on 15-08-2013 06:24 PM
@thecatspjs wrote:
The more I read on the site map the more I realise how confused and contradictory the information is on this matter, for example the ebay site map states ...
Sellers are required under Australian law to accept returns for goods purchased from a business and provide Australian consumers with a repair, replacement or refund if the goods etc etc
And then ebay site map - goes on to explain in the next breath an entirely differently take on what accept returns actually means when filling in a listing and in fact only want me to select no returns accepted if I don't offer returns for change of mind or any reason.
Does not make sense to me ??? it is very misleading for both seller and buyer.
Rock and hard place really .......
I agree, in fact I would really like the returns policy that shows on listings (prior to clicking on the tab to read further) to reflect what is actually being offered in a way that properly clarifies things - technically, a store is not supposed to have a sign up that just says 'No Returns', but they can have one that says 'No returns for change of mind', as that does not attempt to mislead buyers into thinking they can't bring faulty goods back, however if you select No Returns on eBay, that's all it says you are not given any space to further clarify that term like you are if you accept returns.
In reality, I suspect there would be few issues if someone displayed Returns Accepted and excluded change of mind, and I think doing it that way is better than the alternative, but the less scope there is for things to be open to interpretation (or missed), the better.
on 15-08-2013 06:44 PM
Thoughts please .... its a bit of the top of my head, but based on ebays own instructions regarding this and consumer legislation that requires my business to have clear policies that do not mislead consumers...
Returns accepted
Returns are offered for any reason where there is a pre-sale agreement between the buyer and seller that is made on the basis that the goods can be returned for refund if they do not fit or change of mind. The buyer is responsible for the costs to return goods by registered post within 30 days from purchase date
If there is no pre-sale agreement, returns are also accepted with reasonable return post costs reimbursed to the buyer, if the item being returned meets any of the following conditions:
Is faulty, or become faulty within a reasonable period of time after purchase
Is not fit for any purpose that was stated in the listing
Does not match the listing description
Is not of the quality that was described in the listing, or
Fails to meet other mandatory consumer guarantees under the Australian Consumer Law.
on 15-08-2013 07:18 PM
^Seems to pretty much cover all the bases to me.