Addicted to Selling Manager

[thesoulyearns]

Hi group. I am addicted to Selling Manager. There is just a constant need to refresh to see if anyone has checked out my listings... or if there are any new watchers... or any bidders... is my title right? Oh, there's an error in the listing, better fix it... why won't anyone bid? Let's see if changing the duration will help, or maybe the price, no it's too low... but I don't want it to sell for that low... but I want it to sell... why isn't anyone even viewing the auctions? Wonder if my results are even showing up. Do the eBuyers hate me? Screw them! No... I will stick it out... and so on and so forth.

Think I'm going to do 1 day auctions at what I consider the peak day, once all of these finish. Honestly, when no one is bidding or caring about the auctions, it just seems to disheartening and it's way too addictive to keep checking back. It's amazing how some sellers do so well. I really wish I could have their success but it don't come easy.

[the3coopers]

Just posting here to confirm that EVERY time you revise a listing, it goes back into the queue to be "reindexed" for the search engine.

That means at least 10 minutes (for most of mine) but up to 24 HOURS (for fashion and designer goods) that your listing will not appear in ANY searches by buyers.

You can still see them because the links in Selling Manager are direct links to your listings. The listing doesn't disappear, but it is not included in ANY searches until it gets reindexed.

Revising listings is certainly not something you want to be doing on a regular basis!

[davewil1964]

I have selling manager pro and about once a week I might check views. If I think of it and haven't got anything more productive to do, like reading the boards.

[phorum_junkie*]

Surely you'd be fully aware that a report or a neg would be completely unjustified for someone using a sniping program to bid on an item for them, without looking back at the listing themselves.

Not at all, plus a lot of people who manually snipe put items on their watch list and do not re visit the listing before putting in their last minute bid.

I don't know why as a new seller you think you know better than experienced sellers what is good practice and what isn't.

Bottom line is if you want to continue risking your tunover rate and account status by changing descriptions then feel fee to do so but you won't mind if we don't bother to offer advice in the future as you obviously know best 😉

[thesoulyearns]

Not at all, plus a lot of people who manually snipe put items on their watch list and do not re visit the listing before putting in their last minute bid.

I don't know why as a new seller you think you know better than experienced sellers what is good practice and what isn't.

Bottom line is if you want to continue risking your tunover rate and account status by changing descriptions then feel fee to do so but you won't mind if we don't bother to offer advice in the future as you obviously know best 😉

Now I'm starting to see why some people don't like certain experienced posters here. I'm already restricting my posts here but can't help but comment on this one. Not that I know better but... well... in this case... I do.

If you can show me the official eBay page that says to the effect of: "Sellers are not allowed to edit their descriptions once listed, beause some people may use a snipe program and not bother to return to check the description," I would be greatly appreciative.

All you're doing is scaring sellers from updating their descriptions when they have every right to within eBay's clearly-described rules about it. Most times it's beneficial to the buyer as it can provide previously-unthought information to help make a listing more accurate.

Since I asked you to provide a page that clearly doesn't exist, I'll provide a page that does. The official rules on revising a listing:

http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/sell/revising_restrictions.html

[flotsam-jetsom]

My wife and I were the same when we started selling, just could not leave well enough alone, now after many years, it is still fun, but not so time consuming since we learned to let things be :^O

[pancaket52]

Soul - the more experienced sellers on here are just trying to help. Constant revising  of your listings results in delays as per eBays FAQ's below:

Important notes about revising your listing and the indexing process:

If you revise a listing before it is indexed, doing so will pull it out of the queue, delaying the indexing process.

If you revise anything in your listing after it has been indexed, the listing must re-index all over again, and that will take as long or longer than the original indexing process.  The listing will not be available in search or category browse until it has been re-indexed.

Many Buyers, myself included, put items on their Watch List then bid in the last few seconds. Very rarely do they (or me) go back to the original listing. So, any revisions you have made do not carry over to the description on buyers Watch Lists. Hence pj's warning regarding a possible  'Not as Described ' dispute.

[thesoulyearns]

Pancaket, don't take my following comments personally. It's not personal. It's just that simply, yours and PJ's advice regarding the sniping issue is wrong in accordance with eBay's rules.

The only person who need to be worried about receiving a strike or report is the buyer. If a buyer followed your instructions and bid at the last second after placing it on their Watch List for a week but didn't check to see if the listing had been updated... and then found out it had so chose not to pay... they would be receiving an Unpaid Item dispute and possibly a strike by eBay. The seller has absolutely nothing to worry about in that case. Why PJ is trying to scare people with that notion, I'm not sure. Maybe she can explain that one.

People who expect a listing not to change, a week after it's on the Watch List, and don't bother taking 10 seconds to go back to double-check if anything's been updated... should not be bidding as they're unaware of the rights of a seller. If something is on my Watch List and it gets to the last 24 hrs, I click on it, run through the listing and then decide if I want to bid. It's common sense.

[healthwise2011]

OMG OCD - You're like a dog with a ball luvely.... You reeeeeally need to find more to do with your time... and there are lotsa options.  These discussion forums are great and there's alot you can learn, and later contribute, for helping yourimprove your ebay experience. Have a flick through the help pages on things like 'revising listings', 'auctions' etc - information is power - what you can and can't do, and what you just shouldn't....

And take a break every so often - go for a walk, cook yourself some gourmet, do some pushups - whatever works ...

I've never heard of eBay burnout before but, hey, there's a first for everything and you're well on your way sweet cheeks 🙂  Just don't forget to breathe...

[beach_and_home]

I actually think it is a good idea to revise your title after a while if an item hasn't sold. Simply because it starts it all over again as a new listing. So if you have had lots of impressions and no sales, I'm talking over months and months, then you are better off to revise the title and let it start all over again. And also maybe your original title needs some jazzing up anyway. But having said that, I forget to do it most of the time.

[thecatspjs]

thesoulyearns ~ if you are addicted to selling manager then don't think of subscribing to inkfrog as it has a spy visitor service (pinpoints on map who (by isp & seach engine) is looking at which of your listings, how many they looked at and other stuff etc etc as well as a real-time big screen counter  - lol

re revising listings - if I am not getting any watchers or visitor counters are looking low - I revise.   I try to do this as the very last think before heading to bed, so the reindexing etc etc occurs during a less active buyer time.  Fairly confident it only helps my sales totals.

re snipers potentially filing not as described claims if a seller  changes their description etc etc  - more carp advice by a few to add to an overflowing crock