on 15-08-2013 10:15 PM
Once more I am at my wits end, so Im turning here in the hope that someone may be able to help me.
I sold an item to a buyer in Germany. He has opened a not as described dispute.
I was alterted to the dispute via email and directed to the resolution centre, upon which I was directed to the case details on ebay.de. The point being that I do not speak, read, nor understand German.
I have written to ebay customer support twice about this. Twice I have received responses from a no.reply address written in GERMAN. When I finally received a response in english it was in form letter style and the sender had clearly not read my email nor understood my complaint.
I feel for my buyer. I want to respond to the case. I want to sort the matter out.
I do not wish to have the case escalated. I would be quite happy to refund the buyer in full. However I can do nothing until clear instructions are presented to me IN ENGLISH. The item was listed on ebay.au, in an ENGLISH speaking country. The title and description were also in ENGLISH.
I swear dealing with ebay is like rubbing a cheese grater against your face.
on 15-08-2013 10:26 PM
Have you tried ringing AU paypal to assist with the response process.
on 15-08-2013 11:21 PM
the dispute hasnt been escalated yet so unfortunately is still in the hands of ebay. paypal are much better at dispute resolution. guess i'll try calling them tomorrow.
on 15-08-2013 11:27 PM
Why not try asking for help on the German forums-there are members there who understand English.
You could also use google translate.
16-08-2013 07:58 AM - edited 16-08-2013 08:01 AM
@soundsugly wrote:the dispute hasnt been escalated yet so unfortunately is still in the hands of ebay. paypal are much better at dispute resolution. guess i'll try calling them tomorrow.
The buyer has raised an ebay buyer protection policy dispute.. it will never be escalated to a "paypal dispute" although
ebay will instruct paypal to refund.
see the info on the link regarding the ebay buyer protection policy. The Op needs to convince ebay that the item was bought and sold
on ebay.au not listed on ebay germany....see the link below... By the way I disagree with what ebay has written on the link below. The salient point being the final value fees you were charged and what countries user agreement they were taken from.
I believe legally this designates on what site the sale took place...... The Op could be in for a bumpy ride
(part copy and pasted) and if ebay instruct paypal to take your money then so will the ombudsman be able to get it back from
paypal.... leaving paypal to argue the toss with ebay
http://sellercentre.ebay.co.uk/international-buyer-and-seller-protection-programmes
Which buyer protection programme applies to you?
Our buyer protection programmes cover cases based on the site where the transaction takes place.
If you’ve chosen basic international selling and offer international postage, buyers can see and buy your items on the sites where you’ve chosen to post. In case of a dispute, the buyer protection programme from the site to which you posted your item applies. For example:
16-08-2013 08:11 AM - edited 16-08-2013 08:12 AM
Here is some food for thopught on this subject.
If you have items listed with international postage and an ebay.com.au member logs into ebay.com and buys your item than as per ebays policy as explained in the link on the post above if the item comes into dispute the buyer will be entitled to open an ebay
buyer protection policy dispute and ebay will require for tracking and signatured delivery showing the buyers address for a seller
to defend an INR claim....howver if that same buyer just logsd into ebay.com.au and buys the item then the seller need only show
delivery to the carrier as the buyer then can only open a payp[al dispute....
ie the ebay buyer protection policy usurps the SOGA requirements and is therefore unenforceable in Australia
... but I bet that does not stop ebay.com giving it a go