on 02-09-2013 08:47 AM
I recently found an offer for an item OVER the Make an Offer price. Great, I thought, if you want to give me more money then fine.
When I went to accept the offer I noticed the buyers note: Inc delivery to Melbourne.
I also noticed the fine print stated that when you accept an offer you also accept any stated buyer conditions.
Clever buyer, but a sneaky practice. If I accepted I would have accepted a reduced offer as I would have to cover postage.
When you look at an offer please examine the buyers note, as you will be bound to any conditions that are stipulated here.
Cheers,
on 02-09-2013 08:31 PM
Different strokes I guess, I can appreciate your willingness and salesmanship, but as I said earlier, any attempts to negotiate terms I didn't like or couldn't meet would all depend on the buyer's approach, and they would have to give me a decent indication that they were open to negotiation and weren't impatienent about the negotiation process.
Hopping off the wheel.
on 02-09-2013 09:26 PM
02-09-2013 09:44 PM - edited 02-09-2013 09:46 PM
If "in jokes" are your thing then knock yourself out posting meaningless comments in response to mine Davewil, no skin off my nose.
It does not change that sellers should read the conditions a buyer proposes before they accept an offer, IMO it is akin to a buyer not reading the terms and conditions outlined in a listing.
on 02-09-2013 10:50 PM
I have a few items that have auto accept or reject for specific $$.
That would conform with your demand for 24 hour acceptance, but I would not be honouring a low offer that excluded postage. Where do I sit? My minimum, as d*g pointed out, is exclusive of postage. If the 'buyer' offers my minimum acceptable, but states that should be inclusive of postage (which is not acceptable), where do I stand? My settings would presumably auto accept the offer.
But I would not be prepared to sell. Who is at fault? Not me, regardless of your prejudices. eBay? They won't compensate. Me? I won't post unless I get postage.
So buyers' offers with conditions would seem to be worth what most seller's would consider them to be.
Regardless of your selective quotes.
on 03-09-2013 10:40 AM
I just submitted a Best Offer on sumfin and it specifically told me that my offer was for the item only.
So by Civil Law standards i'e it tells you what you CAN do, that means that any reference to include postage costs etc as a condition isn't gonna fly.
An Australian seller's terms and conditions don't trump eBay's policies or ACL.
The wording on timeframe is less specific though - it does say "you "should" allow up to 48 hours for response.... the term "should" is subjective and is not obligatory, so I can't see a problem with including that and eBay obviously agrees as they allow you to withdraw an offer, as does the law - ie - an offer can be withdrawn at any time before acceptance.
on 03-09-2013 08:05 PM
If I had a buyer putting a 24 hour time limit on their offer I would wait for 25 hours and then accept their offer.
I just like being difficult with smart alec buyers.
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on 03-09-2013 09:09 PM
Dificult sellers are simply the worst kind to deal with ebay.
Fortuntely most sellers are very professional and don't adopt a difficult, highly personalised and judgemental attitude when it comes to giving consideration to offers when making a sale.
on 03-09-2013 09:49 PM
@thecatspjs wrote:No ifs or buts for me. I am sure it is not.
Otherwise I would not make such offers.
No ifs or buts for me. It is a case of the buyer rewriting ebay policy to suit themselves.