on โ04-02-2019 11:18 AM
Just received eBay's latest assistance to sellers *Ebay's NEW HEALTH CHECK* .
This may be old news but they are moving timed BUY IT NOW and will move all my listings to GOOD TIL CANCELLED. Well that is not what I want but then again we have no say.
This does not suit me for many reasons with something new I like to use 10 days as an option. The rest are 30 day listings which gives me the option to adjust the listings if they are not attracting buyers or watches. I will sometimes group them with other items etc.
I find the 30 day listings far more manageable for my business needs.
So if all fixed listings are good til cancelled I dare say the next step will be for those with ebay stores will be reduced with the amount of fixed listings in their subscription.
Good til cancelled also means there will be a hell of a lot of old stock on there for years or if I remember correctly they were bringing in limited time for listings.
I have had my vent but OH SO FRUSTRATING makes me wonder why I am doing this.
on โ06-02-2019 01:08 PM
I've never used AR with any of my listings - ever.
For starters - it's never been available to me - one very good reason for not utilising it
Plus I prefer to be able to control what & when I list & not rely on ebay to relist for me.
We all know what happens when you rely on ebay to perform certain critical functions...*thinking hard*
NO thank you!!
Still think I'll relist as GTC until I see what 'pans' out
on โ06-02-2019 03:08 PM
Just wondering why this whasn't been posted by ebay under 'eBay Announcements and Seller Releases'.
Trickery? Or Laziness? Or ignorance?
on โ06-02-2019 03:55 PM
Probably all three reasons.
on โ06-02-2019 04:27 PM
@minimum_56 wrote:We are currently in the middle of a No listing fee/No FVF promo (which ends 11.59pm 7/2/2019)
My current listings are due for re-list tomorrow (compliments of last month's No List fee/no FVF promo) (non-store)
If I relist tomorrow as 30 day & ebay changes all listings to GTC on 19/2 am I still eligible for NO FVF promo for the duration until they 'roll-over' again?
or when changed to GTC (by ebay) do my listings 'start' their 30 day cycle again from 19/2 & I lose NO FVF promo?
I'm seriously considering relisting my items tomorrow as GTC instead of 30 day.
Will they still eligible for no FVF promo until roll-over next month?
Questions, questions...*sigh*
From 19 Feruary, not on 19 February. ie the first time they are due to relist on or after 19 Feb. 20 March for 30 day listings started on 18 Feb.
on โ06-02-2019 05:13 PM
I use GTC always (having read this thread it sounds like I might have made a mistake there), I don't believe I get charged for the items I have in this format. Only if I sell something do I have to pay any fees. And probably when I make the initial listing I'll have to pay the listing fee. I don't own a store and had about 15-20 items sitting on here for over a year. Don't know if that helps anyone.
on โ06-02-2019 07:01 PM
You aren't being charged GTC 'roll-over listing fees as you have 24 listings & they fall into the 40 free listings per month.
If you had 60 listings - you'd get the first 40 free - then have to pay GTC fees for 20 items each month.
on โ06-02-2019 07:02 PM
There's nothing worse than browsing through a category and seeing the same item listed up to ten times by the same seller, with minor changes in the title to get it past the bots.
There is something worse ... wading through thousands of listings for new overseas junk. Buyers have been screaming from the rooftops how frustrating it is to contend with page after page of items where the location is misrepresented and the drop-down price variations are nothing short of bait advertising. Not to mention the fact these items are often of inferior quality and customer service is non existent. These are the listings which are clogging the arteries of ebay and this policy change will do absolutely nothing to change that.
When I'm browsing categories the listings often number in the thousands. Filter out the new carp, the overseas sellers, etc and sometimes I'm left with single digits.
The niche sellers are the only thing which differentiates ebay from any other site. Several others have used the example of books. Books and other media [CDs, DVDs] are the perfect examples. I go through phases of reading a lot. One book can take you on a tangent to another and another ... not recent best-sellers but often out of print titles with limited availability.
Furthermore, there are cycles in every type of consumer product. I experienced it myself several years ago. I used to list bulk lots of Bratz dolls. At one stage I think I hadn't sold a single lot in 8 to 12 months. Then I sold one lot, then another, then another. Soon I was selling them as fast as I could list them. I was so surprised by the turnaround I asked one buyer who was picking up some lots, why the sudden interest. She told me about the artist in Tasmania [Tree Change Dolls] who was doing make-unders on Bratz dolls. In a period of several months I sold in excess of 1,000 dolls. Had my stagnant listings been removed, it never would have happened.
I believe ebay began as a site for collectors ... don't know if the Pez dispenser story is true or urban myth. Sure, it had to evolve and adapt to become the phenomenon it became but you have to remain true to some of your roots.
Ebay always posits these changes as enhancing the buying experience but the truth is they simply do NOT listen. They keep slapping bandaids on gaping wounds. I know these boards are not necessarily representative of the broader ebay community but, honestly, how many people come here complaining about stagnant listings as opposed to the ongoing complaints about the deluge of junk which makes finding anything relevant a needle-in-a-haystack trial.
on โ07-02-2019 08:53 AM
The reason is simple - It's greed.
Not everyone will be able to monitor every item, many people will get caught with this. They're too busy, they forget, get sick, any number of reasons. Ebay wins every time you don't end your items before they relist them - you pay.
on โ07-02-2019 09:11 AM
on โ07-02-2019 10:00 AM
@dazzledayz wrote:
@gec2002 wrote:
If your on eBay as a business and the numbers say that you should being selling bestsellers that what you should do. Better to sell 10000 books with $1 each profit after all costs, than 1 book at $1000 profit. If your on eBay for the glory of selling the odd obscure book and showing your the worlds greater rare book hunter go for it. But, my guess is that eBay is a giant multinational and are in it for the profit and if the numbers say bestsellers are the way to go, then that is what they will do. If after some time it becomes obvious that rare books are the go then they will change back. The CEO's mega bonus is based on what the current profitability is, not what will be in 5 years time.This is precisely the reason eBay finds itself in a hole ATM; it's much easier to manipulate spreadsheets to look good short term than to state and then live up to long term goals.
The fact remains that eBay has lost market penetration over the last decade since they went for boards focused on this way of thinking.
In the last year or so they are even losing that battle as reflected by the diminished long term share price and sub par forward projections.
Diversity was what made eBay great in the first place and I fail to see any improvement brought about by its reduction.
As for search, visibility and volume manipulation practises; these simply act to reduce diversity further and restrict growth by discouraging increased offering volumes.
As far as your profitability sums go, I feel you are failing to account for time.
10,000 sales at a nominal 10 minutes per item (sourcing, listing, packaging etc) at a $30 per hour labour price would represent a total labour cost of $50,000
You'd need a pretty good markup to cover that!
I see plenty of sellers in books making around $1.50 per sale after fees and they're still not selling in huge volumes.
Trying to build a business at $10-15 per hour is very hard yards indeed.
I am sorry but I did take into account time, if you read what I said "Better to sell 10000 books with $1 each profit after all costs" In other words $1 Net Profit (All Revenue - All Expenses) per book.