Exorbitant seller fees and unexplicable billing

[hannu2004]

Why am I getting bills form ebay that are unsubstantiated and I cannot reply and complain? My last bill of fees is $50.54 from gross sales of $201.57.  But if I add all the fees from my sales page it only comes to $11.47. why so big difference and why is ebay not explaining what i am paying for? if I go to a shop and buy things my invoice lists all things i have bought that add to the total sum, but not in ebay billing... why not. Quite frankly 25% fee for all sales is a rip iff, I am thinking of chukking the whole ebay business. I operate on a very thin margin already but I get the feeling that I am only making the fat ebay bossess rich. 

[joethenuts]

she was asking why her monthjy fees were so high compated to her sales    as these coins did not sell she was relisting them  so if you put them at auction theres a $1.50 fee   what i am saying even if she gets her starting bid in she still looses   with a bin sale at least she can have it on for a month at about 40 cents    instead she is paying $1.50 a pop  for something that is going to be hard to sell  these are circulated coins   not rare  just everyday coins  and yes she did sell her $2 coin for $2.50   but she stil lost about 40% on it   her costs were $5  and she reicieved $3.50  pretty straight forward for me early this morning   lol

[joethenuts]

well if that aplies to auctions then she should apply

[black*poppy]

There was a post about the 3 ebay relists being like bank charges and being charged $1.50 each. This needed to be corrected. Also there was no clear explanation about fast n free.

[cq_tech]

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@joethenuts wrote:

she is selling the coins on auction she sold a $2 coin yesterday for $2.50 +$1 postage       auction cost $1.50  fees ebay and paypall 75cents , stamp and envelope 75cents  and coin $2  total $5  sold $3.50 total   loss is $1.50

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F F S, how many times do you need to be told something before it finally sinks in?

There is NO $1.50 auction listing fee unless she has used up all of her 40 free listings and 3 free relists for a total of 120 listings per month, and at her current 50 active listings she is nowhere near that figure, so in your example above, she hasn't made a net loss of $1.50 at all but has actually broken even on the transaction.

[bakeandfry]

Joe, how are they getting charged $1.50 listing fee?, unless they have gone over the monthly limit, if thats the case im sorry, i keep getting timed out when i go to full site at the moment. Makes it very difficult when that happens.

[pennyforum14]

Joe, the OP does not have a store like you do.  For non store holders, the listing fee is exactly the same for a BN as it is for an auction, so it is NOT cheaper for them to list this way.  Your advice, though well meaning, is not accurate.

[joethenuts]

if you read her post she says she is charged $1.50 for re listing   which is the cowst of an auction ,she is going past her 40 free listings a month  thats why she is been charched $1.50  each time

[hannu2004]

joethenut said: "

hanna dont forget when your auctions finish put your coins on buy it now instead of auctions   it is cheaper ,

tomorrow you have a $1    and a 50cent coins finishing auction      like i worked it out for you  you sold your $2 coin but still lost $1.50  with fees   but can you understand if you dont sell your $1   and 50 cent coin on monday you loose less money than if you sell them at starting auction  price   [$1 coin =$1.20 +$1  postage..........50cent coin=85cents +$1 postage  ]  if these 2 items doont sell you loose $1.50 auction fee    but if they sell you loose more than $1.50     unlless someone bids more   good luck,  i hope you can see why you are losing money  with big fees"

true what you say but there are two principles of trading in force, new or new like items that have a list or catalogue price. That does not vary much because the seller and buyer consult the same list. for insyance if I was selling an UNC coin or a new car, the price range is quite limited. but if I am selling a used or rare item the value is whatever the buyer is prepared to pay in other words what is it worth for him or her, this is a typical auction value. it is impossible to predict that value. I may put a circulated coin series for sale and evaluate it say $9.00 but someone is just looking for starting a new collection and finds it a great value and bids $19.00. 

Also when the item value is low, for instance $2, the listing fee is 75% of the item value and very critical. if my item is $150 then the listing fee means nothing. 

but I take your suggestion on board and consider some rules such as when to auction and when to BIN, and remain under 40 items and be careful when relisting things. 

[joethenuts]

correct hanna if you go past your 40 listings   and you keep them in auction style you will be charged $1.50  but if you put them in bin style it will be cheaper , when its free if you wanna break even thats up to you   but thats why your fees are  very high compered to your sales [ but if your fees from aprox $200 sales last month was $50  you also have to add paypals fees for the month postage fees for that month and of course cost of your items you sold for that month   have a nice day

[padi*0409]

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@joethenuts wrote:

correct hanna if you go past your 40 listings   and you keep them in auction style you will be charged $1.50  but if you put them in bin style it will be cheaper , when its free if you wanna break even thats up to you   but thats why your fees are  very high compered to your sales [ but if your fees from aprox $200 sales last month was $50  you also have to add paypals fees for the month postage fees for that month and of course cost of your items you sold for that month   have a nice day

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Please STOP giving incorrect information to posters, you have been told previously that for a non-store there is NO difference between listing fees for auctions and BINs.

If you are not reading the previous posts then please don't post at all, because you are just confusing the OP with your completely incorrect and misguided statements.