Fee on postage

[2014auswit]

Ebay's 10% on postage?Sticky fingers again.I had over 500 transactions over a few years and last year cancelled my account

due to very unprofessional paypal service.Lately I noticed simpler selling process and decided to give it another go.Do not know

whether it was a good decision.

[2106greencat]

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@aps1080 wrote:

10% of something is better than 100% of nothing !!!

If the sellers leave, then they get 0.

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Thats the thing isn't it ?

How many sellers are selling some items at a loss just to keep buyers coming back in the hope of selling higher value items.

I used to sell medium/high range items, my cost was low as I import, so I was competitive in the marketplace and I also had access to a business freight account for delivery if AP was too expensive or items too large/heavy.

I could offer free post (included of course in some of the  lower price items) and still be competitive.

But the average seller paying AP rates, fvf on postage, less the cost ofthe item, and trying to make a living it is bloody near impossible.

[joxamara]

Hang on - basic business rules should apply to all sales whether private selling or not:

Total cost of supply + sensible profit = cost to consumer.

Fees and costs of using whatever selling platform are part of total cost of supply and these include all fees and charges other than those you are happy to absorb.

And listing something for 99 cents has NEVER meant it would be sold at a profit of 99 cents.  Anything on Ebay that is likely to be purchased through payapl payment should surely have a minimum price to ensure ebay (including FVF on shipping) and paypal fees otherwise what is the point?  Not everything can be a loss leader.

[everard6920]

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@cq_tech wrote:
If it succeeds in driving away the ex-postage pirates then as far as I'm concerned it's no great loss and I'll be glad to see the backs of them. After all, they're the ones responsible in part for eBay's introduction of FVFs on the postage component of transactions, and in so doing have made selling internationally a lost cause.

Nobody was ever meant to make a profit on postage but because a handful of greedy and selfish sellers decided to make a nice little business in profiting from excessive postage, eBay decided to step in and do the same thing themselves, and now everybody suffers equally as a consequence.

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I understand what you're saying, but I do think there were other solutions to this problem.

For example - sellers suspected of overcharging on postage could be asked to provide evidence (postag receipts, etc) that prove the cost of postage. Repeat offenders would be banned from selling.

Or, put large letters in the postage calculator (a no brainer, as many sellers use them), make everyone use the postage calculator (as opposed to flat rate) and make it so postage charged cannot be more than postage cost + 15% (to account for handling). There's probably some flaw in this that I have overlooked, but the point is, there are other solutions.

It's clear that the easiest and most profitable solution was to just make us pay FVFs on postage. It definitely wasn't the best solution.

[iamanark]

Quote: "After all, they're the ones responsible in part for eBay's introduction of FVFs on the postage component of transactions"

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Codswallop

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Epay did it purely through GREED

[2014auswit]

Thanks to all for your comments.I can see again that greed of all that **bleep**s in the process will kill ebay and paypal.

It was a good idea but the greed of AP,ebay,paypal and the number of other crooks makes the selling/buying process a joke.

I was right at first place cancelling my account with ebay and paypal.

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@2014auswit wrote:

Ebay's 10% on postage?Sticky fingers again.I had over 500 transactions over a few years and last year cancelled my account

due to very unprofessional paypal service.Lately I noticed simpler selling process and decided to give it another go.Do not know

whether it was a good decision.

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[cq_tech]

It's clear that the easiest and most profitable solution was to just make us pay FVFs on postage. It definitely wasn't the best solution.

Just in case you think I'm being an apologist for eBay's complete and utter greed in imposing FVFs on postage, not only do I thoroughly agree with your comments, I don't for one moment even begin to believe that eBay did it for that purpose. They merely saw another opportunity to make yet another shipload of money by increasing sellers' charges by stealth. That it got rid of the postage pirates was nothing more than the one and only side benefit of eBay's disgusting and typical avarice.

[cq_tech]

Of course they were partly responsible. They gave eBay the idea to legitimise yet another disgusting fee grab, didn't they?

The postage pirates simply gave eBay one of the excuses they needed to get away with stealing even more in fees from sellers.

[iamanark]

Quote: “Of course they were partly responsible. They gave eBay the idea to legitimise yet another disgusting fee grab, didn't they?”
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My 8 year old nephew could have written a program to detect postage pirates !
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The people who got really duded were … Australia Post
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ePay conned Australia Post into becoming partners in the postage system
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Buying postage/click’n’send/postage labels/satchels etc through ePay
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Australia Post fell for it hook, line & sinker
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As soon as ePay became involed in the actual postage, that then gave them the legal right to say postage was part of the buyer’s experience and were able to then charge the FVFs on postage
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That is why the ACCC was not able to intervene … postage was an actual part of the ePay process
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And how was Australia Post duded ?
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Because the added FVF fees on postage was an actual postage increase/rise and Australia Post received none of the increase
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So it equated to a rise in postage costs, and any rise in costs, by the law of economics, leads to a lower demand, so poor AP actually lost in the process,
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But a plus is, Australia Post is now considering, very carefully, further cost rises due to the recent 10% increase in postage by ePay
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So, while we sellers feel duded …. So was Australia Post

[strawberries-n-creambabies]

My thoughts exactly. 

Ebay are cutting their own throats. It may happen slower than some of us wish, but their doing it to themselves! They had a great business going on and they had to destory it. 

[2014auswit]

I was stupid enough claiming the selling process is simpler.It stinks as it was stinking before.Even worse.

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@2014auswit wrote:

Ebay's 10% on postage?Sticky fingers again.I had over 500 transactions over a few years and last year cancelled my account

due to very unprofessional paypal service.Lately I noticed simpler selling process and decided to give it another go.Do not know

whether it was a good decision.

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