Forcing me to managed payment or deny new listings

[retrowise]

I wanted to put up a new item but message came up I must register to managed payments. So I go to the link where it says "express interest". I fill out the form but skip the "Why are you interested in managed payments?" because I am not interested in it. Off course it won't let me continue. So I feel I'm being forced to voluntarily sign up for something I don't want. When I dig deeper, I find they also want driver's licence and who knows what other persona information which in no way I will submit to some private company online.

The question I have is it even legal to force people this way or simply deny their service?

I've been with ebay since the start but this will probably be the end of it. What are your thoughts

[katistrophik]

And again, I must stress eBay no longer use Paypal, so all new info and proof of id etc has to be provided to Adyen who are registered in Australia and are a financial corporation, that now processes funds for eBay.

Any paypal related theories, are no longer applicabe here so please disregard the misinformation.

[katistrophik]

Just as an aside - if you don't want to provide these details to eBay (Adyen) you are under no obligation to do so, you just won't be able to continue selling on this platform - Simples

[gutterpunkz05]

Exactly Kat,  and further down the track they probably wont be able to sell anywhere else either.

The  OP and a couple of others should check out  AML/CTF legislation, and then they may realize that

ebay is not making these changes for the fun of it, they are complying with new legal requirements out of necessity, not choice.

[4channel]

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@retrowise wrote:

I wanted to put up a new item but message came up I must register to managed payments. So I go to the link where it says "express interest". I fill out the form but skip the "Why are you interested in managed payments?" because I am not interested in it. Off course it won't let me continue. So I feel I'm being forced to voluntarily sign up for something I don't want. When I dig deeper, I find they also want driver's licence and who knows what other persona information which in no way I will submit to some private company online.

The question I have is it even legal to force people this way or simply deny their service?

I've been with ebay since the start but this will probably be the end of it. What are your thoughts

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Hi again retrowise. Just a further reply to your very good opening post, regardless of what legislation is around or what PayPal's relationship to eBay is, you are quite right in expressing your views and as well as being valid, they are applicable.  I applaud you for that.

Giving private details especially highly sensitive and personal details on line is madness. These organizations at some stage may sell on certain aspects of info. PayPal is not a bank and there have been quite a few issues relating to the conduct of this organization.

I only submit drivers L details and other sensitive info over the counter of a recognized banking facility / similar agency or when directed to by a policeman

[katistrophik]

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@retrowise wrote:

I wanted to put up a new item but message came up I must register to managed payments. So I go to the link where it says "express interest". I fill out the form but skip the "Why are you interested in managed payments?" because I am not interested in it. Off course it won't let me continue. So I feel I'm being forced to voluntarily sign up for something I don't want. When I dig deeper, I find they also want driver's licence and who knows what other persona information which in no way I will submit to some private company online.

The question I have is it even legal to force people this way or simply deny their service?

I've been with ebay since the start but this will probably be the end of it. What are your thoughts

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You only have 2 choices

1.  Provide what is needed to Adyen [eBay as thousands of others have already]

2. Find another platform to sell on because there really is no choice

[gutterpunkz05]

The OP has no validity, it is a legal requirement that ebay and members have to comply with,  dont like it,

tough,  Dont like the idea of supplying (highly sensitive information),  there is a very simple solution that still enables you to comply with all requirements.  Otherwise see how long you get to continue selling elsewhere.

[4channel]

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@gutterpunkz05 wrote:

The OP has no validity, it is a legal requirement that ebay and members have to comply with,  dont like it,

tough,  Dont like the idea of supplying (highly sensitive information),  there is a very simple solution that still enables you to comply with all requirements.  Otherwise see how long you get to continue selling elsewhere.

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OP has every right to express their displeasure. There's validity in that!  Also the OP  has been responsible for alerting others as to what is taking place.  You're probably correct now in what you say that  it "is a legal requirement that ebay and members have to comply with, ". Well OK, I'll double check what you have said but I think you're correct.  I personally haven't sold on eBay for a number of years. I have been thinking about it lately as there's a fair bit of stuff at home. I certainly will not give over any personal info online other than a Visa or BankCard detail. I'll sell my stuff elsewhere. Maybe just have a kind of fire sale and have more room for guests etc..

And it is disgusting that we have come to this where everyday folk have to give big brother highly sensitive info to just sell an old hairbrush, some cassettes or bunch of magazines.

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

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@4channel wrote:

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@retrowise wrote:

I wanted to put up a new item but message came up I must register to managed payments. So I go to the link where it says "express interest". I fill out the form but skip the "Why are you interested in managed payments?" because I am not interested in it. Off course it won't let me continue. So I feel I'm being forced to voluntarily sign up for something I don't want. When I dig deeper, I find they also want driver's licence and who knows what other persona information which in no way I will submit to some private company online.

The question I have is it even legal to force people this way or simply deny their service?

I've been with ebay since the start but this will probably be the end of it. What are your thoughts

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Hi again retrowise. Just a further reply to your very good opening post, regardless of what legislation is around or what PayPal's relationship to eBay is, you are quite right in expressing your views and as well as being valid, they are applicable.  I applaud you for that.

Giving private details especially highly sensitive and personal details on line is madness. These organizations at some stage may sell on certain aspects of info. PayPal is not a bank and there have been quite a few issues relating to the conduct of this organization.

I only submit drivers L details and other sensitive info over the counter of a recognized banking facility / similar agency or when directed to by a policeman

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are you saying that at some time in the future eBay or PayPal might ‘sell’ information they have about members? Are you suggesting they might sell drivers licence details?

Just asking for clarity.

[repentatleisure1952]

"Also the OP has been responsible for alerting others"... snort & double snort.

eBay has been informing sellers of this change since William Webb Ellis picked up the ball and ran with it.

OP is just another example of many sellers who choose to ignore eBay Announcements.

[repentatleisure1952]

Yes they will.

They will also force you to watch drag queens in a library, play violent video games, shovel unhealthy food into our mouths & build phone towers in our backyards while we are asleep.